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Ben Carson: People who advocate for separation of church and state have ‘schizophrenia’

Appearing before an assembly of his constituents, Carson declared that since God is in the Deceleration of Independence, the Pledge of Allegiance, and on U.S. coinage, there is in fact no actual separation between God and politics.

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Right before finishing fourth in the Iowa caucuses, Republican candidate Dr. Ben Carson issued a final plea to voters, saying they should beware of people who advocate the Constitution’s separation of church and state clause because they suffer from a certain type of “schizophrenia,” causing them to have “seizures” every time they lay eyes on a cross.

Appearing before an assembly of his constituents, Carson declared that since God is in the Declaration of Independence, the Pledge of Allegiance (est. 1954), and on U.S. coinage, there is in fact no actual separation between God and politics:

We Americans must be proud of who we are. We cannot give away our values and principles for the sake of political correctness. And, you know, there are those —there are those who go around proclaiming “Separation of church and state! You can’t put anything up that has anything to do with God, certainly nothing to do with Jesus Christ,” and, you know, “I’ll have a seizure if I see a cross,” and all this kind of crap, you know…

The fact of the matter is: Do they realize that our founding document, the Declaration of Independence, says we have certain inalienable rights given to us by our Creator, a.k.a. God? That the Pledge of Allegiance says we’re one nation “under God”? Most courtrooms, on the wall, it says “In God We Trust.” Every coin in our pocket, every bill in our wallet, says “In God We Trust.” If it’s in our founding documents, it’s in our Pledge, in our courts, and it’s on our money, but we’re not supposed to talk about it, what in the world is that? In medicine, we call it “schizophrenia.” And doesn’t that explain a lot of what’s going on in our nation?

According to Hemant Mehta of Patheos, “Carson’s wrong so many times in that little speech. We’re not having seizures if we see a cross. We just want the government remaining neutral on matters of religion, and we’re rightfully angry when we see Christianity get free government advertising.”

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  1. itsjim

    February 3, 2016 at 9:28 am

    This guy is a MORON, Please get off the stage panderer to the religious right, sell your books elsewhere.

  2. Mike Davis

    February 3, 2016 at 10:23 am

    The word “God” is nowhere to be seen in any of our founding documents for good reason. All of the “God” references were added to the Pledge, the coinage and paper bills as a result of the post WWII communist scare during the Eisenhower administration, not by the founding fathers.

    We do find “Creator” in deference to those who cannot agree on what their vision of “God” might be called – Yahweh, Jehovah, God, Jesus, Allah, the Great Spirit, etc. In addition, in his autobiography, Thomas Jefferson wrote these words to clarify what might be though to be a misunderstanding of the Constitution as written.
    “Where the preamble declares that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed, by inserting the word ‘Jesus Christ,’ so that it should read ‘departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion’ the insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of it’s protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo, and infidel of every denomination.” (Thomas Jefferson autobiography July 27, 1821 – Library of Congress)

    In addition, our own Ronald Reagan wrote these words:
    “We establish no religion in this country, we command no worship, we mandate no belief, nor will we ever. Church and state are, and must remain, separate. All are free to believe or not believe, all are free to practice a faith or not, and those who believe are free, and should be free, to speak of and act on their belief.” – Ronald Reagan in speech in 1984 to community leaders in Valley Stream, NY

    It is this history that resulted in the 6th Amendment and the idea of “no religious test” and the separation of church and state. How soon these people forget that our country was founded on an escape from the Anglican church, not to embrace it.

  3. Kit9

    February 3, 2016 at 11:26 am

    If there is anything that has been proven by this year’s Rethuglican politicians it is that they are all absolutely batshit crazy.

  4. Gonzo Dave

    February 4, 2016 at 8:50 am

    Um, it’s the “Declaration of Independence,” not the “Deceleration of Independence.” Spelling and word choice matter. A lot.

  5. Brendon Booth

    February 4, 2016 at 2:42 pm

    1. That’s not the definition of Schizophrenia.

    2. My ‘Creator’, from whom my inalienable rights are endowed, is not the Abrahamic ‘God’. It is the Cosmos, in all of IT’S glory to be beheld.

  6. lovinliberal

    February 4, 2016 at 4:03 pm

    Well we are having a certain amount of deceleration of independence within the party. Maybe he’s not far off.

  7. Brian

    February 5, 2016 at 3:44 am

    It’s odd how these people experience all ofthe symptoms he describes when *they* don’t get to play church in the government.

  8. Michelle

    February 5, 2016 at 2:53 pm

    The best response to Carson and Cruz, both are condemning Liberals and lying about “separation of church and state”.

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1060674007358986&id=346937065399354

  9. Michelle

    February 5, 2016 at 3:06 pm

    I’m so sick of Ben Carson and Ted Cruz lying to Americans. I’m not against Christianity – I AM AGAINST LIARS.

    Our founding fathers were CLEAR & ABSOLUTE about “separation of Church and state” and NO, IT WASN’T JUST TO KEEP GOVERNMENT OUT OF CHURCHES like Fox and history revisionists are trying to convince Americans.

    This country was not birthed as a Christian nation, no matter how many times Fox says so. Most of our founding fathers WERE NOT CHRISTIANS as most denominations were not considered Christian back then.

    At least five were Diests THAT DID NOT BELIEVE IN JESUS OR THE NEW TESTAMENT. Jefferson was one of them. He claimed the Christian church was the most corrupt entity of his day and that they made up Jesus and the New Testament to manipulate people.

    It was the Baptists who wrote to Jeffereson in fear that he was going to allow Christianity to be the ONE American religion, which they were against. His reply to them was where the famous quote is written promising separation of church and state:

    “I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibit the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church and state.”
    ~ FF Thomas Jefferson, letter to the Baptists of Danbury, 1802 ~

    “The Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.”
    ~1797 Treaty of Tripoli signed by Founding Father (FF) John Adams ~

    “Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.”
    ~ FF Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, 1814 ~

    “The civil government functions with complete success by the total separation of the Church from the State.”
    ~ FF James Madison, 1819 ~

    “The Bible is not my book, nor Christianity my profession.”
    ~ FF Abraham Lincoln ~

    “Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man”
    ~ FF Thomas Jefferson ~

    “There is not one redeeming feature in our superstition of Christianity. It has made one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites.”
    ~ FF Thomas Jefferson ~

    “Lighthouses are more useful than churches.”
    ~ FF Ben Franklin ~

    “The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason”
    ~ FF Ben Franklin ~

    “This would be the best of all possible worlds if there were no religion in it”
    ~ FF John Adams ~

    “Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in religion is the worst.”
    ~ FF Thomas Paine ~

    “All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.”
    ~ FF Thomas Paine ~

    “Because religious belief, or non-belief, is such an important part of every person’s life, freedom of religion affects every individual. State churches that use government power to support themselves and force their views on persons of other faiths undermine all our civil rights.”

    “Moreover, state support of the church tends to make the clergy unresponsive to the people and leads to corruption within religion. Erecting the “wall of separation between church and state,” therefore, is absolutely essential in a free society.”
    ~ F F Thomas Jefferson, 1808 ~

    “Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise.”
    ~ FF James Madison ~

    “Every new and successful example of a perfect separation between religion and civil matters is of importance……… religion and government will exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together, being completely independent of each other.”
    ~ FFJames Madison, letter, 1822 ~

    “History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes.”
    ~ FF Thomas Jefferson: in letter to Alexander von Humboldt, 1813 ~

    “God has appointed two kinds of government in the world, which are distinct in their nature, and ought never to be confounded together; one of which is called civil government, the other church government.”
    ~ FF Isaac Backus, An Appeal to the Public for Religious Separation and liberty, 1773 ~

    Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, then that of blindfolded fear.”
    ~ F F Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, 1787 ~

    “I am for freedom of religion and against all maneuvers to bring about a legal ascendancy of one sect over another.”
    ~ F F Thomas Jefferson, letter to Elbridge Gerry, January 26, 1799 ~

    One of the three accomplishments that Jefferson asked to be listed on his epitaph was that he was the:

    “Author of the Statute of Virginia for RELIGIOUS FREEDOM”

    When Benjamin Franklin proposed during the Constitutional Convention that the founders begin each day with a prayer to God for guidance, his suggestion was DEFEATED AS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

    Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address originally had the words “under God” in it but Lincoln took it out because he thought it violated what he represented as President of the country, which was absolution of separation of church and state.

  10. Desertphile

    February 6, 2016 at 7:40 am

    The USA founders had schizophrenia?

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