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‘Good guy with a gun’ tries to stop carjacking, shoots victim in the head instead and bails

Yet another incident where a “good guy with a gun” did more harm than good.

The “good guy with a gun” mantra is a popular one among conservatives who claim tragedies could be averted if only the victims or a concerned citizen had been packing. Again and again, these NRA and right-wing talking points are disproven, and yet another case, this time out of Texas, shows us why.

Two men in the Houston, Texas were in the process of stealing an unarmed man’s truck at a gas station when a would-be hero rushed in to save the day. He drew his weapon and began firing. However, he missed his mark. Instead of hitting the car jackers, the gunman hit the victim in the head.

After he realized what he did, the good samaritan wasn’t so brave in the face of danger anymore. He hurriedly grabbed the evidence (the shell casings from his own gun), and left the scene before the authorities could come and identify him. The bad guys got away, and the victim is reported to be stabilized and recovering at a local hospital. While the stolen truck was found a short ways away, there’s been hide nor hair of either the car jackers or the shooter.

Watch a video news report on the incident below, via ABC 13

[Raw Story] Featured image via screen capture

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32 Comments

  1. Simon Peters

    September 28, 2015 at 4:33 pm

    When will America wake up to the fact that guns equal dead people? Fewer guns = fewer deaths from shooting. Simple.

  2. Brian

    September 28, 2015 at 10:35 pm

    ‘As writer Nate Rawlings points out in Time Magazine; “data show[s] what any police officer who has ever been involved in a shooting can tell you–firing accurately in a stressful situation is extremely hard.” Rawlings then goes on to share this statistic;
    “…between 1998 and 2006, the average hit rate during gunfights was just 18 percent. When suspects did not return fire, police officers hit their targets 30 percent of the time.”

    So if the NYPD, who have as Rawlings puts it; “some of the most comprehensive and sophisticated firearms training of any police force in the country” can only hit “bad guys with guns” 18-30% of the time, how accurate do you think a school full of strapped teachers, nurses, career counselors, principals and janitors will be? We haven’t even discussed the hundreds of times trained police officers have accidentally (i.e. purposefully) shot an unarmed (black) person yet. Would teachers, who can sadly sometimes be just as racist and biased as some police officers are, be any different? I shudder at the thought of an NRA approved, gun toting teacher one day reaching for an eraser only to “accidentally” pull their gun instead and shoot a disruptive kid in the back “oopsie!”
    The reality is, despite the 18-30% hit rate during shootouts, there’s a reason we always want teams of trained cops responding to active shooters; because the “good guy with a gun” taking down the “bad guy with a gun” scenario is pretty much just a myth. It rarely happens that way. Further proof of this comes from the 1999 Columbine High School shootings. Columbine High had a full-time uniformed and armed Sheriff’s Deputy on staff. Five minutes after the shootings started, the Deputy managed to engage the shooters, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold in a gunfight, but he was unable to hit either of them. Harris and Klebold then continued their shooting spree in the school for another 30+ minutes before finally committing suicide.’

    http://www.howmanly.com/elsewhere-in-manly/our-armed-savior-myth-of-the-hero-with-a-gun/

  3. Jay Iseli

    September 28, 2015 at 10:55 pm

    The news story says the carjackers hit the victim in the head not the shooter. While I am not a fan of guns, I am a fan of honest reporting…..

  4. Keith Wright

    September 28, 2015 at 11:04 pm

    Didn’t you know they’ll throw Jell-O instead?

  5. letsgetem51

    September 29, 2015 at 1:03 am

    Lol the guy lived. At least he TRIED to help instead of looking the other way.

  6. Jimmy Barrett

    September 29, 2015 at 1:42 am

    Yeah let’s outlaw them all….like we’ve done with drugs…..because that’s working so well!

  7. Frank in Spokane

    September 29, 2015 at 4:39 am

    Shoots the wrong person then covers it up? He may have a future with the police.

  8. Steve

    September 29, 2015 at 2:35 pm

    This is true tragedy, responsible gun owners/conceal carry know when they can and can’t fire their weapon. Fewer guns is not the answer better responsibility/training is. More people are killed by drunk drivers then by accidental shootings, does that mean we should stop selling alcohol to people that have drivers licences?

  9. Jon L

    September 29, 2015 at 3:04 pm

    you know even your own source article says the injury was due to the carjackers, it appears there was early confusion in the story so everyone else updated to reflect that the carjackers assault caused the injuries.

  10. Aj

    September 30, 2015 at 11:04 pm

    Your article doesn’t match up with the news report

  11. Samual Adams

    September 30, 2015 at 11:16 pm

    No one got shot. Did you even watch the video?

  12. kevinpmullins

    September 30, 2015 at 11:47 pm

    Nowhere in the news clip does it say the victim was “shot” in the head… he was “clocked” in the head, implying the carjackers hit him over the head with something. Now why the good guy with a gun ran from the scene is suspicious to me. (my guess is the gun might not have been legal) Finding the truck only 3 blocks or so away, also very strange. Would like to see an update on this when the store video is released.

  13. Sylvain Sick

    October 1, 2015 at 12:17 am

    actually it is that simple !

  14. James Coffman

    October 1, 2015 at 9:24 am

    Simon you’re a idiot. Most guns in the US that are legal do not kill people, Most guns that kill people are illegal gotten. To add to that a rock was once used to kill people and can still be used to do so but you don’t want . fewer rocks do you?

  15. someone that cares

    October 1, 2015 at 3:00 pm

    before you write a story. How about you get your facts straight. and I quote

    “A man said he was hit on the head near a bus station on the edge of the parking lot. A witness saw what happened and as two suspects got in the man’s truck to escape, the witness pulled out a gun and shot at the departing truck.”

    To me, you twisted the story for your own propaganda and try to show that witness didnt know how to fire a gun and shot the man in the head.

  16. Oakley Resident

    October 1, 2015 at 3:31 pm

    when will douche bags like the guy that fabricated this story quit it. the Victim was not shot, he was beaten by the Perps NOT shot!!!!

  17. Steve

    October 1, 2015 at 4:29 pm

    Yes, accidents happen, even to Good Samaritans trying to help. However, it may surprise you to know that a Newsweek study of FBI data found that the police are 5.5 times more likely to shoot the wrong person than the citizen-on-the-scene. Further more, a University of Chicago study found that police shot and killed 11 times as many innocent people as civilians did.

    How often do cops shoot the wrong person, even in a legitimate incident? For instance, there was the guy who committed a workplace murder in New York City a few years ago (notably a city with extremely strict gun control), and the cops caught up to him on the street a few minutes later (far too late for the victim) and he turned and pointed his gun at them. OK, this is definitely a justified shooting, from the police standpoint. However, the cops ended up hitting *ten* bystanders while shooting the guy! They shot 10 people to get one guy!

    Then there’s the even worse cases, where they just screw up, like the lady in Atlanta recently who was shot by police as she answered the door. She had called them for a domestic dispute, but the fighters had moved the front yard by the time police arrived. They rang the door bell, and shot her as she answered the door. At first they claimed she had a gun, but witnesses refuted that, and they eventually withdrew that claim. No charges have yet been filed.

    The Newsweek study found that police shoot the wrong individual (or individuals) 11% of the time! That means if you call the police and they arrive and fire shots, there is a better than 1-in-10 chance they will shoot the wrong person!

    On the other hand, the citizen on the scene only shoots the wrong person 2% of the time, or 1-in-50. Obviously, the casein the article above was one of those.

    Why is this? Because the cops show up at least minutes later, and have to decide on first glance who is ‘good guy’ and who is ‘bad guy’. In fact, as with the lady above, the incident is frequently over by the time they arrive.

    But the citizen on the scene was there as it developed, and usually has no doubt about who is who, at least 49 times out of 50, it would seem.

    The University of Chicago study found that while killing 600 legitimate criminals in 1993, police also killed 330 innocent civilians. Citizens that same year killed 30 innocent people, out of 1527 self defense deaths. So out of less than half the deaths, police killed *eleven* times more innocent people!

    In conclusion, while finding *one* story where a bystander shot the wrong person is a statistical drop in the bucket, and proves nothing.

    Unless, of course, you think Newsweek and the University of Chicago are just conservative shills…

  18. djmotorcop

    October 1, 2015 at 8:01 pm

    I know things would be better if people were beaten stabbed or choked to death.

  19. Paul Albrecht

    October 1, 2015 at 9:02 pm

    i might have missed something here, but how do we know that the shooter wasn’t in with the crooks?

  20. Anon

    October 1, 2015 at 9:29 pm

    That’s well understood. The question of “how do you remove all the unregistered weapons” goes unanswered in the “restrict legal sales” answers. Until you’ve solved that “take away the legal guns” isn’t a good plan.

  21. Daniel

    October 1, 2015 at 10:18 pm

    Well said. Things like this make me glad I live in Canada.

  22. Simon Peters

    October 14, 2015 at 2:32 pm

    Fewer guns in any hands will lower America’s appalling death rate from shootings – 92 per day!!!! Stop the flow of guns into public hands and you have started to reduce the enormous arsenal of weapons that are floating about. You have lax controls at every point of ownership – look to Europe to see how one can intelligently deal with guns and reduce the shocking death toll you appear happy to tolerate.

  23. Simon Peters

    October 14, 2015 at 2:33 pm

    Leaving foolish and inappropriate ‘comic’ remarks merely makes you look a buffoon.

  24. Simon Peters

    October 14, 2015 at 3:21 pm

    Oddly enough, Mr Coffman, in Europe carrying a rock as an offensive weapon WILL get you into trouble. So – rocks in the right place, like on the ground and NOT in the hands of someone who may intend to strike someone with the said rock, are fine. Extend that lesson to guns and what have you got – fewer guns! Which proves my point. It’s better if you concentrate on the facts of the argument and stop trying to make smart remarks.

  25. Shannon Bellflower

    October 24, 2015 at 11:20 am

    Move to another country then Bud, Guns will never be outlawed here!

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