Frank Sinatra’s views on organized religion were decades ahead of his time

I came across this old interview with Frank Sinatra recently, and needless to say, it was surprising.

The interview originally appeared in Playboy Magazine in 1963, and it demonstrates the timeless performer’s deep and evolved thoughts on organized religion.

Here’s an excerpt:

Playboy: Are you a religious man? Do you believe in God?

Sinatra: Well, that’ll do for openers. I think I can sum up my religious feelings in a couple of paragraphs. First: I believe in you and me. I’m like Albert Schweitzer and Bertrand Russell and Albert Einstein in that I have a respect for life — in any form. I believe in nature, in the birds, the sea, the sky, in everything I can see or that there is real evidence for. If these things are what you mean by God, then I believe in God. But I don’t believe in a personal God to whom I look for comfort or for a natural on the next roll of the dice. I’m not unmindful of man’s seeming need for faith; I’m for anything that gets you through the night, be it prayer, tranquilizers or a bottle of Jack Daniel’s. But to me religion is a deeply personal thing in which man and God go it alone together, without the witch doctor in the middle. The witch doctor tries to convince us that we have to ask God for help, to spell out to him what we need, even to bribe him with prayer or cash on the line. Well, I believe that God knows what each of us wants and needs. It’s not necessary for us to make it to church on Sunday to reach Him. You can find Him anyplace. And if that sounds heretical, my source is pretty good: Matthew, Five to Seven, The Sermon on the Mount.

Playboy: You haven’t found any answers for yourself in organized religion?

Sinatra: There are things about organized religion which I resent. Christ is revered as the Prince of Peace, but more blood has been shed in His name than any other figure in history. You show me one step forward in the name of religion and I’ll show you a hundred retrogressions. Remember, they were men of God who destroyed the educational treasures at Alexandria, who perpetrated the Inquisition in Spain, who burned the witches at Salem. Over 25,000 organized religions flourish on this planet, but the followers of each think all the others are miserably misguided and probably evil as well. In India they worship white cows, monkeys and a dip in the Ganges. The Moslems accept slavery and prepare for Allah, who promises wine and revirginated women. And witch doctors aren’t just in Africa. If you look in the L.A. papers of a Sunday morning, you’ll see the local variety advertising their wares like suits with two pairs of pants.

Playboy: Hasn’t religious faith just as often served as a civilizing influence?

Sinatra: Remember that leering, cursing lynch mob in Little Rock reviling a meek, innocent little 12-year-old Negro girl as she tried to enroll in public school? Weren’t they — or most of them — devout churchgoers? I detest the two-faced who pretend liberality but are practiced bigots in their own mean little spheres. I didn’t tell my daughter whom to marry, but I’d have broken her back if she had had big eyes for a bigot. As I see it, man is a product of his conditioning, and the social forces which mold his morality and conduct — including racial prejudice — are influenced more by material things like food and economic necessities than by the fear and awe and bigotry generated by the high priests of commercialized superstition. Now don’t get me wrong. I’m for decency — period. I’m for anything and everything that bodes love and consideration for my fellow man. But when lip service to some mysterious deity permits bestiality on Wednesday and absolution on Sunday — cash me out.

Playboy: But aren’t such spiritual hypocrites in a minority? Aren’t most Americans fairly consistent in their conduct within the precepts of religious doctrine?

Sinatra: I’ve got no quarrel with men of decency at any level. But I can’t believe that decency stems only from religion. And I can’t help wondering how many public figures make avowals of religious faith to maintain an aura of respectability. Our civilization, such as it is, was shaped by religion, and the men who aspire to public office anyplace in the free world must make obeisance to God or risk immediate opprobrium. Our press accurately reflects the religious nature of our society, but you’ll notice that it also carries the articles and advertisements of astrology and hokey Elmer Gantry revivalists. We in America pride ourselves on freedom of the press, but every day I see, and so do you, this kind of dishonesty and distortion not only in this area but in reporting — about guys like me, for instance, which is of minor importance except to me; but also in reporting world news. How can a free people make decisions without facts? If the press reports world news as they report about me, we’re in trouble.

Playboy: Are you saying that . . .

Sinatra: No, wait, let me finish. Have you thought of the chance I’m taking by speaking out this way? Can you imagine the deluge of crank letters, curses, threats and obscenities I’ll receive after these remarks gain general circulation? Worse, the boycott of my records, my films, maybe a picket line at my opening at the Sands. Why? Because I’ve dared to say that love and decency are not necessarily concomitants of religious fervor.

Playboy: If you think you’re stepping over the line, offending your public or perhaps risking economic suicide, shall we cut this off now, erase the tape and start over along more antiseptic lines?

Sinatra: No, let’s let it run. I’ve thought this way for years, ached to say these things. Whom have I harmed by what I’ve said? What moral defection have I suggested? No, I don’t want to chicken out now. Come on, pal, the clock’s running.

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    dirtydog1776 (@dirtydog1776)

    August 29, 2014 at 5:09 am

    My gosh, Mr. Sinatra makes some intelligent statements, but not sure if I want to take advice from a narcissistic mobster who had people’s legs broken, committed adultery, got drunk, controlled people’s lives, worshiped fame and money over all else and cavorted with prostitutes.

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    August 29, 2014 at 1:37 pm

    Wow! Frank nailed it! I’m wondering how much editorial freedom was taken with his comments. I never thought of him as an intellectual! “immediate opprobrium” ?

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    jaackie mclean

    August 29, 2014 at 5:30 pm

    I never realized Frank was so eloquent.My sentiments completely

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    Slow Moe

    August 29, 2014 at 10:18 pm

    Ad hominem.

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    August 29, 2014 at 11:19 pm

    Not that I needed another reason to love Frankie, but here are several, not the least of which is his consistent and correct usage of “whom.”

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    Carin Harvii

    August 30, 2014 at 1:56 am

    Decades ahead of his time? This is as old as the words “non serviam”, with a little Pontius Pilate’s “what is truth?” thrown in. This is nothing but the whiskied rantings of the village atheist who sadly slept through catechism, lived a life of womanizing and then tried to justify his immoral behavior by spouting tired banalities in Playboy. If ever there was a man in need of God and his Son, the Crucified Jesus, it was Sinatra. Judging by his Catholic funeral, he may have realized it at the end of his life. So too may you all – for those who seperate themselves from the love of God in this life find in eternity a separation that is final and complete.
    If you dare have the intellectual courage to go beyond trite cliches about Inquisitions and witch doctors, investigate the claims of the Catholic Church through the Catechism, Thomas Aquinas, Blaise Pascal, John Henry Newman, GK Chesterton, Peter Kreeft, Catholic Answers…

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    Robert Caponi

    August 30, 2014 at 2:01 am

    “Decades ahead of his time”!?! As if what he says is a consensus now? He stated his opinion, which happens to be the same opinion some people have in 2014, and which happens to be the same opinion some people had in 1789. There’s nothing scholarly, or ahead-of-its-time about any of it (in fact, the idea that Christians burned down the Library of Alexandria is effectively an urban legend.)

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    John Capasso Sr.

    August 30, 2014 at 9:23 am

    Well, you just described St. Augustine before he found his faith. I’m not sure a man’s character necessarily undermines the validity or eloquence of his arguments. As for the quality of Frank’s character – as a good example – reasonable minds may differ. As for your argument, your point is well taken but I think Sloe Moe concisely points to its weakness.

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    August 30, 2014 at 11:22 am

    Unlikely this is real or at least unedited. His reaction to the Pope’s photo being ripped-up in protest on Saturday Night Live seems unlikely if these are his true thoughts. Also, I’ve read and seen many interviews with the man and he’s never come off this articulate or forward-thinking.

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    August 30, 2014 at 1:07 pm

    You’re almost describing Jesus and Bible god to a tee..

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    August 31, 2014 at 3:03 pm

    Not real? Look here:

    Apparently there were also quotes from the interview in “Frank Sinatra, My Father” (1986) by Nancy Sinatra, p. 201

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    September 1, 2014 at 7:06 am

    Matthew 7: 1-3

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    September 1, 2014 at 7:54 am

    What a load of crap. Sinatra was a talented man, but his personal life was a shambles. Now we have insight in to why.

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    Jacques Lafortune

    September 1, 2014 at 9:49 am

    …and he comes from New Jersey!!!

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    Reed Daly

    September 1, 2014 at 4:12 pm

    Right on…

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    Phil Arthur

    September 2, 2014 at 2:02 am

    His words speak for them self. No need to judge his lifestyle to weigh the wisdom of his words.

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    Greg Rzewnicki

    September 2, 2014 at 2:09 am

    Love it. Religion and nationalism both have run their course and now need to go away, kinda like unions!

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    Margaret Morales Sokolowski

    September 2, 2014 at 2:11 am

    My father was an atheist, we had a Catholic priest at his funeral only to please my Mom. You trying to say that ‘true’ Christians that go to church every Sunday are perfect or never sin?? I call bullshit on that.

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    Phil Simpson

    September 2, 2014 at 2:17 am

    Ahead of the times

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    September 2, 2014 at 2:19 am

    Red Herring, as well.

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    James Briggs

    September 2, 2014 at 2:27 am

    Of course I was shocked to read such profound comments from someone I thought of as a thug. But I never met Sinatra I never walked a mile in his moccasins. Maybe all I heard about him was a lie. Or on the other hand maybe his publicity agent or someone was paid to write the comments. All I can do is take them face value and not worry about who actually said them. Sinatra is dead anyway. I agree with the ideas expressed and find that they were expressed in a very sophisticated way.

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    September 2, 2014 at 2:28 am

    Religion is unnecessary for goodness.

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    Mike Zinna

    September 2, 2014 at 2:30 am

    Jealous? How come god and his great unknowable intellect could never come up with anything better to make a point except to kill millions of people or fix us lowly humans by splaying some poor kid out on a piece of wood? Ex Catholic here. At 6 yrs old at the beginning of the brainwashing I knew it was BS

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    September 2, 2014 at 2:31 am

    So was Steve Forbes and William Henry Vanderbilt, amongst others, what’s your point?

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    Christopher Smith

    September 2, 2014 at 2:32 am

    Interesting projection at the end of your reply. Sinatra merely says men of god, not christians per se. However, it is clear that anti-intellectualism played a serious role in the burning of the Library and this was a key element of Christianity.

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    Betsy Duncan

    September 2, 2014 at 2:34 am

    Never was a fan of Ol’ Blue Eyes, but he makes a lot of sense here and sounds very well-read!

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    Denise Treesh

    September 2, 2014 at 2:35 am

    I think you failed to list your own sins – or are you the only one who could cast the first stone?

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    John Brosnan

    September 2, 2014 at 2:39 am

    And philosophy that doesn’t allow people to trust themselves shouldn’t trusted.

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    John Brosnan

    September 2, 2014 at 2:41 am

    Any philosophy that doesn’t allow people to trust themselves shouldn’t trusted.

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    Anna Marie

    September 2, 2014 at 2:46 am

    I totally agree…. So getting drunk and worshipping fame and money with adultery does not include God so really where and what was his belief?

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    September 2, 2014 at 2:53 am

    Awfully hateful comment for someone who professes to follow a “loving god.”

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    Cathryn Jordache

    September 2, 2014 at 2:56 am

    My Grandpa thought the same way. In his youth he was an Alter Boy in a Catholic Church. Later he decided the people of religion were hipercrits. Also, that God was a fragment of his imagination. Grandpa suffered social stigma. They claimed he hated God. How can you hate what doesn’t exist? Grandpa helped me form my creed. He was a very loving man. I believe he was surprised to discover himself in Heaven.=]

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    Ben Kenobi

    September 2, 2014 at 2:57 am

    What trite and irreducibly banal religist nonsense. If the tomes of the xtian religion are as far as you have traveled on the highway to truth… then you are indeed a poor sap and the definition of a wasted life.

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    Barb Russ

    September 2, 2014 at 3:00 am

    Dirtydog do you prefer to take advice from men who rape children or the men who protect them?

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    Ben Kenobi

    September 2, 2014 at 3:01 am

    That is the problem with religists like you… the bar for alleged ‘insight’ is set way to low.

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    September 2, 2014 at 3:05 am

    Well seeing as he wasn’t a mobster, he was just a guy who enjoyed living. I see no issue here..

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    September 2, 2014 at 3:07 am

    The Catholic Church is nothing but a huge cult! I was raised Catholic, I should know. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid!

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    September 2, 2014 at 3:09 am

    He was a dirty dog.

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    Brad Byers

    September 2, 2014 at 3:10 am

    Frank Sinatra did not say any of this. He was not an educated man, and whomever wrote this went far above and beyond any standard literary vocabulary. Playboy in the early 60’s sent their interview questions to the celebrity to be answered at their convenience. This is clearly a ghost writer at work… Show me evidence anywhere on video or audio tape of Sinatra speaking in any form similar to this…

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    September 2, 2014 at 3:11 am

    Because no man of faith ever had a shambolic personal life, right? Gimme a break.

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    September 2, 2014 at 3:13 am

    I remember him bashing Sinead O’Connor for ripping the picture of the Pope on SNL many years ago.

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    Don Izzy

    September 2, 2014 at 3:13 am

    I like him still. Almost exactly as I would say it.

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    September 2, 2014 at 3:18 am

    Completely indecent to mock a man’s position for the way he looked at the world. How indecent of you to judge atheist, which by the way sinatra just said he wasn’t. But if you want to prove something please demonstrate and/or ellaborate how you know the first thing about eternity, as a matter of fact tell us how you learned the first thing about death and what happens after (if anything)

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    Keith Ziegler

    September 2, 2014 at 3:20 am

    Either a man speaks truth or he doesn’t. His character besides that truth are irrelevant. Mr. Sinatra, in this case was correct. Embrace that fact and move on beyond petty insults to his character beyond these comments.

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    September 2, 2014 at 3:22 am

    You’re an idiot…enough said.

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    September 2, 2014 at 3:23 am

    Did you read the interview?

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    September 2, 2014 at 3:25 am

    I was very skeptical about this, so I looked it up and found that it is pretty solid. The best part I found a Biblical Christan webpage that hates on Sinatra’s interview. Thus proving his point he made to playboy.

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    September 2, 2014 at 3:28 am

    right on!

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    September 2, 2014 at 3:29 am

    “eternity” huh? One life lived and if you screw up…you get punished for all time, ever and ever? Any “god” who would do that doesn’t deserve worship.

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    Angela Walker (@AngelinaWalks)

    September 2, 2014 at 3:38 am

    Appears you are just the kind of person who tries to push religion, organized or otherwise, as the only way to live, and who likes to pretend his life is far more moral and honest than Sinatra’s. Silly rabbit.

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    September 2, 2014 at 3:42 am

    Frank Sinatra was a musician, you uncultured swine. He was Gentleman Class musician of swing. I do think you’re thinking of Al Capone and that ilk.

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    Floyd Trout Jr.

    September 2, 2014 at 3:45 am

    Good job Frank I’m with you all the way all facts!!!

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    Corey Belair

    September 2, 2014 at 3:51 am

    No it’s not lol… Have you ever ready any educational book outside of biblical treatises? Let me guess… You’re Christian.. -.-

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    September 2, 2014 at 3:56 am

    He “slept through catechism”? If he was in a catechism class, it’s more likely he was pretending to be asleep to avoid eye-contact with the molester priest.

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    September 2, 2014 at 4:10 am

    I think we need to look at the message, not the messenger. If Adolph Hitler said we should be nice to dogs, I wouldn’t ignore that just because he was one nasty mofo.

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    Dave graham

    September 2, 2014 at 4:10 am

    Even if they didn’t burn down the Alexandria library Christians have done considerable amounts of unchrist like acts. Frank nailed it and those of you who say he’s an atheist missed the message all together piss on Judeo Christianity and Islam bthe world’s worst religions ever

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    September 2, 2014 at 4:18 am

    @dirtydog1776 Are you talking about Jesus or Sinatra ?

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    September 2, 2014 at 4:26 am

    So you personally knew Frank Sinatra and gathered those personality traits from your time and experiences with him?…. If you can read and follow the words of The Bible or whatever religion you follow and have never met or spoken to any of the people who wrote those words, then you surely can put aside Sinatras rumored reputation and realize that this interview was very well expressed and would be a descent way for anyone to live their lives or view God.

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    Raymond G. Whitham

    September 2, 2014 at 4:37 am

    BORING – YAWN!!!

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    September 2, 2014 at 4:38 am

    There is no such thing as God. Whoever claims there is an invisible sky daddy watching every step we take and listening to every word we speak, they need to have theor head examined. The burden of proof beyond any reasonable doubt lies upon those claiming there is a God. And no, the bible, aka the ramblings of 4000 year old bronze age mysoginistic men, is only proof of mental disease.

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    josette mieuzet

    September 2, 2014 at 4:42 am

    you are judging and were you his close friend to be so sure of what you say

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    September 2, 2014 at 4:45 am

    Carin why judge? Doesn’t your bullshit religion say something bout that?

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    September 2, 2014 at 4:46 am

    I for one am perfectly fine with cavorting with prostitutes

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    Mark Losben

    September 2, 2014 at 4:47 am

    Yeah cause I ‘d rather take advice from a priest who molests young boys and has the church hide it and maybe send him to another parish to do it all over again for decades. That’s much better..

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    September 2, 2014 at 4:49 am

    You realise to an atheist you sound like a crazy loon when you talk about the Crucified Jesus as though that should carry some significance? He inferred in his article why he would have a catholic funeral – for the same reason he was afraid to be honest about his opinion of religion. Because of hateful bigots, of which the Christian Church (amongst others) specializes in producing. And by the way, the inquisition was not a cliche. It was a murderous cult of power thirsty, brutal, repressive bigots slaughtering the innocent in the name of their imaginary God.
    Here’s the deal, believe what you want, just don’t hurt anyone else, and keep your mumbo jumbo about crucified zombies saving my soul to yourself.

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    September 2, 2014 at 4:57 am

    Its sad he felt that way. Im sure now that hes on the other side hes screaming for people not to listen to him. I pray he got saved before he died. What does a man profit to gain the whole world and lose his soul. He blames God for mans sins and wrongs. How blind can one be.

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    Ross Aimer

    September 2, 2014 at 4:59 am

    Nothing new about the feelings of any intellectual man who does not belive in lies and fairy tales. What is unique is that Sinatra was not only an intelect he was very courageous to openly speak his mind. Considering his status and the era.

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    Brenda Norris

    September 2, 2014 at 5:09 am

    “How can a free people make decisions without facts? If the press reports world news as they report about me, we’re in trouble.”
    And so they probably did and quite a few of posts here are based on what’s been printed in the news about Frank Sinatra. He was decades ahead of his time.

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    September 2, 2014 at 5:25 am

    Somehow, this is a talented load of crap, in shambles? Your opinion is a far bigger pile of BS. Now, go pray to your god, okay?

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    Paul Rainwater

    September 2, 2014 at 5:30 am

    that’s it, try to invalidate the truth he told by trying to assassinate his character, what a hypocrite, does that make you feel better?

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    September 2, 2014 at 6:02 am

    Yes, it must be because he was a religious hypocrite, unlike the bible-thumping politicians who are serial prostitute customers. (Here’s to you, Sen. Vitter.)

    Let’s see now, how many little kids have priests raped in the past hundred years?

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    Comedian Stoney

    September 2, 2014 at 6:20 am

    Yeah I had to look up the definitions of opprobrium and obeisance lol well spoken and we’ll read gentleman he was..

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    September 2, 2014 at 6:27 am

    All of the bible is effectively an urban legend

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    September 2, 2014 at 6:36 am

    Ok Bible beaters take a breath! And please let’s us not forget the current state of the ‘Catholic’ religion. At best the Roman Cathothic religion is wealth of contritidictions at worst it is a Facsist organization that supported and Celebrated Hitler and his final solution and is riddled with sexual abuse scandles. I think the take away is in any ‘organized’ religion if man holds up another human in front of Hod himself and any man tells you he knows the will of God- well my friends that is a candidate for Thorazine

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    September 2, 2014 at 6:49 am

    Well that just destroyed my whole image of the man.
    Intellectual ? (jeb)
    Eloquent ? (jaackie)
    C’mon people, it’s pure arrogance.

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    September 2, 2014 at 6:59 am

    The part that makes this ‘ahead of his time’ is the fact he spoke this opinion publicly. I am from his era – if you didn’t believe in god you kept your opinion to yourself and your mouth shut. The consequences for anyone who wasn’t as famous or well-loved as Frank Sinatra vocalizing this non-belief were catastrophic. Literally. Loss of family, job, reputation ensued.

    And I wouldn’t place too much credence to his having mafia ties. Back in the day you didn’t achieve success without them. It was how the world worked.

    Much like today’s Joni Ernst who sold her soul to the Koch Brothers for her shot at political success.

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    have fun

    September 2, 2014 at 7:05 am

    but do u really believe that someone who is kind to all and makes the most of their opportunities in this life (not necessarily sinatra, could be anyone who is a good human being but doesn’t believe in the christian way of life) have really strayed from god ?

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    September 2, 2014 at 7:34 am

    Well, guess what … there are many known “men of the cloth” who have been guilty of the same.

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    Mary hynes

    September 2, 2014 at 7:39 am

    Sounds nice but don’t forget that later he had his first marriage annulled by the Catholic Church. He then married his last wife in the Catholic Church and went back to mass. Tom Dreeson(sp.) who used to open for Sinatra went with him at times and said Sinatra used to do a reading at mass.

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    September 2, 2014 at 7:45 am

    Sounds like many Pastor’s I know.

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    September 2, 2014 at 7:53 am

    You mean the Catholic Church right?

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    September 2, 2014 at 7:58 am

    I think he was brave and brilliant in this interview. .. Sinatra didn’t cower behind religion to protect his place in heaven. 3 Hail Mary’s and you’re good to go! I too detest the shallow hypocrites that place themselves above others in the name of their God, preached to by hordes of child molesters…. it will take generations to untangle that mess. Focus on that all of you bible thumpers.

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    September 2, 2014 at 8:01 am

    Well played, Mac!

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    Samuel Mackey

    September 2, 2014 at 8:22 am

    I remember those movie shorts they’d show before the cartoons, Frank with a gang of kids, black and white together, talking about tolerance and the evils of racism. And these date back to the 1940s when, if you recall, racial attitudes were very different than they are today.

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    Ed Mattson

    September 2, 2014 at 8:34 am

    Many have glossed completely over what is relevant and ahead of his time. That is not the ongoing argument about God, or practiced religion. No, what was ahead of his time, was his prophecy about if the news media presenting the news from a prepositioned or biased perspective. That leads to they themselves driving the consensus, instead of allowing the pubic to interpret the events themselves.

    Religion has always had believers and deniers. Detection of the beginning of the media expressing opinionated articles like we are experiencing today, was very much out front. Almost prophetic of him. He was very astute, as reality shows us. His theory was dead on target.

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    Matt Nelko

    September 2, 2014 at 8:38 am

    There is nothing new under the sun. Sinatra was not “decades ahead of his time”, he was actually embracing philosophies and tenets of the Old Religion, which predates Christianity by millennia.

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    September 2, 2014 at 8:40 am

    One of the many ordered destructive attacks (including burning) of the Library of Alexandria was decreed by Pope Theophilus in 391AD. That’s history Robert Caponi, not an urban legend.

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    September 2, 2014 at 9:07 am

    The Bible is, in fact, the greatest story ever told. It’s a story. A story you fools.

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    September 2, 2014 at 9:46 am

    There is no god, period. Grow up.

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    September 2, 2014 at 9:55 am

    This guy and his comment.

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    Paul Rainwater

    September 2, 2014 at 9:58 am

    “If ever there was a man in need of God and his Son, the Crucified Jesus, it was Sinatra” why do you go back to the dark ages and spew your Calvinistic nonsense, “go sell crazy somewhere else, we’re all stocked up here”

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    September 2, 2014 at 10:00 am

    I think most of you need to read this part again: Sinatra: No, wait, let me finish. Have you thought of the chance I’m taking by speaking out this way? Can you imagine the deluge of crank letters, curses, threats and obscenities I’ll receive after these remarks gain general circulation? Worse, the boycott of my records, my films, maybe a picket line at my opening at the Sands. Why? Because I’ve dared to say that love and decency are not necessarily concomitants of religious fervor.

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    John Webb

    September 2, 2014 at 10:45 am

    It probably was ghost written but you can bet your bottom dollar that it would have been read altered and read again before being approved by Sinatra himself. Most of us would run something by someone before publishing or proclaiming a difficult position. This I would suggest is just his thoughts clearly laid out with the help of others.

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    John Webb

    September 2, 2014 at 10:49 am

    The only rantings on this page are your own. If you have nothing but hatred and vitriol to add to the argument then you just end up justifying his argument not your own.

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    Millicent broderick

    September 2, 2014 at 10:52 am

    I think this is what Frank would like to say if he were eloquent.

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    September 2, 2014 at 11:10 am

    “Religion is an insult to logic”

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    sandor nagy

    September 2, 2014 at 11:49 am

    you got it right. frank was not that sharp and i bet these views would definitely have made headlines. without proof, this is pure propaganda!

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    September 2, 2014 at 12:00 pm

    And your actual point is?

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    September 2, 2014 at 12:03 pm

    Aw did somebody burst your little delusion?

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    September 2, 2014 at 12:03 pm


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    September 2, 2014 at 12:08 pm

    …unlike many GOP politicians, or those who don’t sign their name to what they write

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    September 2, 2014 at 12:11 pm

    completely agree

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    September 2, 2014 at 12:16 pm

    So much instant hate. Wow. As educated as some of these comments are, we haven’t advanced as a people one bit. Respect for another person’s point of view is…. Awe forget it ;).

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    Billy Grabarkowitz

    September 2, 2014 at 12:30 pm

    I keep looking in the Bible for thye source of the Holy Trinity. Can you help? It is also refreshing to hear you regard the inquisitions as ¨trite¨. You wre obviously buttplugged one too many times as a choir boy.

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    Billy Grabarkowitz

    September 2, 2014 at 12:37 pm

    Aesop´s Fables seem to bear more effective life lessons. No killing, no threatsof eternal damnantion, etc…..

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    Marty Abelon

    September 2, 2014 at 12:41 pm

    All religions are the making of the devil.

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    September 2, 2014 at 1:14 pm

    I’m reading all these messages and read franks thoughts on this subject I am a follower of Jesus and your all in titled to your opinion tho I don’t agree with all of them if don’t want to follow then don’t I’m not to judge you that’s Jesus Job non believers keep saying the same thing over and over for us not to judge you but all I’m seeing is you judging us JESUS said it best when he said if your tried of religion come onto me now what’s that tell you ? Not all churches are the same

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    September 2, 2014 at 1:20 pm

    If you read correctly, he’s not giving you advice. He’s just answering questions and being truthful even if it means ‘economic suicide’ for him.

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    Helen Moran

    September 2, 2014 at 1:46 pm

    you really didn’t get the man did you Dirty Dog?

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    September 2, 2014 at 1:49 pm

    If you listen carefully to Atheists they don’t not believe in God. They don’t believe in supernatural theism, that God is out there. But from the way they speak they belie in pantheism, that God is in everything, nature, and us. We exist throughout God. There is a huge difference .

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    September 2, 2014 at 1:50 pm

    I absolutely LOVE his point:”How can a free people make decisions without the facts? If the press reports about world news, as they report about me, we’re in trouble.”…This is exactly what is transpiring in our governmental positions today! Sooo many of us accept what is reported in the ‘news’ instead of investigating the facts. And then we vote, or not-yet either way so many spout beliefs they are fed about any particular government employee, especially this President, and spread hatred and non-productivity amongst this country, which is leading us to our own demise.

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    Jerry Dee-Gee

    September 2, 2014 at 1:58 pm

    Wow, not something that I would ever have expected from FS. Is anyone else wondering what came next on these “The Forgotten Tapes of old Blue Eyes”?

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    Todd Box

    September 2, 2014 at 2:09 pm

    I agree with you 100%. I was about to say the same thing.

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    September 2, 2014 at 2:31 pm

    Nailed it!

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    September 2, 2014 at 2:32 pm

    He was from a different era, where non-college educated people could actually, you know, read. There were no television when he was a child, and people as a whole were much more well-read. My grandfather was two years older than he, from the same part of the country, and despite never going to college he was quite eloquent. Your skepticism is more of an indictment of our time than proof of anything false.

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    Jon Tabakman

    September 2, 2014 at 2:45 pm

    I agree with Brad Byers. It was written for him, and until Playboy releases the video, or audio tape, I’m not buying into it. I basically agree with the stated point of view, but find it difficult to believe that it’s Sinatra speaking.

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    Some guy

    September 2, 2014 at 2:49 pm

    Wow, that’s a lot of crap.
    1- the Catholic Church has the same message it’s had for 2000 years. Nothing contradictory about it (except that it contradicts how most of us want to behave so we create contradiction to justify ourselves…)
    2- it never supported Hitler; not sure what propaganda machine told you otherwise (fact: Hitler had Catholic priest executed and churches sacked.)
    3-you know nothing of religious practice; Catholics hold no one above anyone in the sense you paint. We do, however, rely on a leader, which (fact) we are not alone in doing.

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    Some guy

    September 2, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    The man is talking about human character, how you can have good character and it not stem from a religious motive. Therefore, his character is fair game. He lived what he’s preached in this article and it clearly failed.

    He was no more ahead of this time than those who said the same shortly after the Crucifixion, or those who same the same today.

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    Devious Diana

    September 2, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    I think this is the part where all the sheep now run up to defend their lunacy!

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    Some guy

    September 2, 2014 at 2:54 pm

    Character is the subject and his proves his theory to be faulty.

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    Devious Diana

    September 2, 2014 at 3:01 pm

    somebody prove to you there is no
    boogie man in the closet?
    don’t ya just hate that?

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    Cody James

    September 2, 2014 at 3:24 pm

    Such a profound view expressed so intelligently. I’m not convinced it was Sinatra who wrote this but that doesn’t take away the message behind it.

    I agree that this opinion, if it truly originated from Sinatra in his era, was ahead of its time. Honestly, its still a bit ahead of its time now. Socially atheism is a lot more accepted but I’ve still lost friends over it because they feel being ‘Godless’ is horrible.

    Still though, while Frank was happy to accept organized religion in some capacity as whatever it takes to get people through their days… I have to comment that one recent thing that bothers me about deeply religious folks is the lack of tolerance. Not just in homosexuals, but the small minority of religious people who wanted to ban Harry Potter. Also, Black Jesus (A show on Adult Swim) had swarms of them trying to boycott the show. That sort of stuff bothers me.

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    September 2, 2014 at 3:35 pm

    Are you an educated man, Brad? “Whomever” is in the objective, not the subjective.

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    September 2, 2014 at 3:37 pm

    In 1992 most people were not aware of the extent of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church. At the time it seemed like she was attacking the world’s largest church over the abuses of a few bad priests and perhaps a few misguided bishops who protected them. Few knew how high up the problem went.

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    September 2, 2014 at 3:42 pm

    He doesn’t. Read it again.

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    Lennox Williams

    September 2, 2014 at 4:06 pm

    Dirtydog fyi KING JAMES was a faggot, catholic priest rape little boys. End of story

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    September 2, 2014 at 4:08 pm

    It seems the Christian religion has been nothing but a concept that “holier than thou ” dupes and Pharisees like yourself had great trouble following and putting into practise …

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    Sharon Boothby

    September 2, 2014 at 4:19 pm

    The right wing religious crazies have so much power today that they would destroy his career. Good thing he was allowed to speak out in 1963. Used to think he was just a skirt chasing drunk, albeit very talented. Have a lot more respect for him after reading this, even if “Playboy” may have edited with some of the historical references.

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    September 2, 2014 at 4:27 pm

    Is this e-zine really trying to serve this as direct quotes from Frank Sinatra? Seriously? He sounds like he could teach philosophy at Harvard. What “he” said in the article, the meaning, I can get behind 100%. But, the attribution that Mr. Sinatra used vocabulary like that is beyond my ability to believe. Nice try though.

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    September 2, 2014 at 4:31 pm

    It’s interesting that people express scepticism at Sinatra being “well read”, because he used words like ” opprobrium” and “obeisance”. One should recall that the members of his generation had books, instead of the 24/7 entertainment glut that current generations enjoy, at the expense of their vocabulary and intellect.
    Fifty years ago, there were 3 networks ABC, CBS and NBC…period.
    His comments to the interviewer about blowback from these remarks demonstrates the strangle hold religion had (has) on rational thought.

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    September 2, 2014 at 4:52 pm

    You think that’s bad, you should see what the Pope was doing….

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    Margaret Evans

    September 2, 2014 at 4:55 pm

    Just like there’s no need to judge the lifestyles of some Christians to prove the wisdom of Christianity. Much like Sinatra believed in “decency and love” but didn’t always show it, so do plenty of Christians believe in the teachings and example of Christ while failing to live up to them.

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    September 2, 2014 at 5:23 pm

    Even in my limited ESL understanding , you just hit the nail right on the center my friend.

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    Victor Bennett

    September 2, 2014 at 5:24 pm

    No one on this planet is perfect..Sinatra had the cpirage to call a spade a spade.. Relifion os man made. Sprirituality cpmes from the creator.

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    September 2, 2014 at 5:27 pm

    and you know this because you was there and witnessed the whole thing

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    September 2, 2014 at 5:35 pm

    I think those who criticize Sinatra have missed the point he was making. Did he resent organized religion because he didn’t agree with it’s ideology? No. Did he resent it because he was unable to live according to that ideology? It seems not. He resented it because those who were in the Christian hierarchal leadership commited terrible atrocities, while justifying these sins as necessary to revere God and promote the church’s legitimacy. Those leaders were pious hypocrites, who urged more righteousness from their congregants than they displayed, themselves.

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    Dean (@TheDudeInSF)

    September 2, 2014 at 5:52 pm

    More likely, decades past religions time.

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    Chris FitzGerald

    September 2, 2014 at 6:47 pm

    Ghosted by Mike Shore, Sinatra’s PR guy.

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    Beverly Leydenfrost

    September 2, 2014 at 7:05 pm

    He might be all the things you say dirtydog but this is the first time I knew that he was that intelligent !!

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    Tony Lock

    September 2, 2014 at 7:18 pm

    I agree totally about the ghost writer, but I sure like the content!

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    Mark C. Dudley

    September 2, 2014 at 7:22 pm

    Dirtydog1776 you should move out of the trees a bit so you can see the forest. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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    Don Bishop

    September 2, 2014 at 7:33 pm

    That was my thought as well , this entire level of intellectual dialog is unlike anything I ever heard out of his mouth and his actions certainly contradict a lot of what ‘he’ said there.
    However everyone has 2 sides and some pretty bad people may have some outstanding opinions that might seem quite the opposite of those peoples’ known character.
    “Even the drunkard believes temperance is a good thing.”

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    September 2, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    Yes, and I’ll bet men roamed the earth with dinosaurs hen the earth was created 6000 years ago. As someone else mentioned, keep drinking the kook-aid.

    I’ll take a humanistic atheist anytime over a narrow bigoted religious person (and that goes for all religions).

    Marx had it right when he said that “religion is the opiate of the masses”.

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    September 2, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    What is NOT an urban legend is the number of people that were killed in the name of Christianity, and the number of books burned.

    By the way, the Christian priests in Central America burned thousands of Mayan books… An incalculable treasure lost because they were considered “things of the devil”.

    Ahead of his time or not… He was right.

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    Jim Frelich

    September 2, 2014 at 8:02 pm

    I was thinking the same thing. I wasn’t aware mugs from Hoboken came off like Harvard professors. Very good summation. Oh well….Frank could sure belt out a tune.

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    Jim Bynum

    September 2, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    Only people who do not know the Bible would compllain about Frank’s life choices. Let’s see what you really believe in.
    Chapter 10: The Benefits of Knowing the Ten Commandments

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    September 2, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    A person’s character is of no consequence to their logic. Whether it stands to reason is the only factor, and arguing a person’s character is a convenient way for a person to hide from reality. A truth offered by a bastard is no less than a truth offered by a “good person”

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    The Other Bob

    September 2, 2014 at 8:28 pm

    Religions feed on the fear of death to fund and perpetuate their existence. And for the fearful, sin on Wednesday, saved on Sunday, religion is an easy sale.

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    September 2, 2014 at 8:36 pm

    prove it’s fake. show me evidence. EVIDENCE!

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    Ryan Dunne

    September 2, 2014 at 8:50 pm

    Many of the comments on this thread perfectly exemplify the hypocrisy Sinatra was railing against. Anyone resorting to name calling and denogration in their comments should read his answers again. The man explained his relationship with God, how he finds God in nature and in human beings. He also said he understands the comforting need for faith, but that decency is not dependent on church attendance. Sinatra even illustrates his position by referencing the words of Jesus via the gospel of Matthew. I happen to agree that if you call yourself a Christian, the only true commandment is the Golden Rule, love thy neighbor as you love yourself, treat others how you want to treated.

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    Gabe ChinaGong Cheng

    September 2, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    You believed in Santa and the tooth fairy too didn’t you? As a kid you would have swore on your mothers greave that they were real. But you grew out of it and realized no one can travel the world delivering presents to EVERYONE in ONE night. But the walking on water and living in a whale, curing the blind, making friends with lions…? Really? You got some growing up to do, kid.

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    Kevin White

    September 2, 2014 at 10:08 pm

    A new found respect for Frank! As if he wasn’t cool enough already!

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    September 2, 2014 at 10:10 pm

    Aaron, God has given you a free will. Would you rather be programmed like a robot and not have any say in your will?

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    Brother Dan

    September 2, 2014 at 10:20 pm

    Pity the poor religionists – they are dying out and taking their sniveling philosophies with them. Demographics and intelligence are one hell of a one-two punch. Deep down, don’t you really believe that you are living in a Fool’s Paradise?

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    September 2, 2014 at 10:21 pm

    But the problem with that statement is science and history back up the bible.

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    September 2, 2014 at 10:29 pm

    .I agree that someone else wrote his “answers” as he simply didn’t speak like that, had little education, never heard that he was a reader, so where’d he even learn words like those? Although I agree with many of the sentiments he allegedly stated.

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    September 2, 2014 at 10:32 pm

    People have done worse in Jesus’ name….but pick your poison I guess. Lol Smh

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    September 2, 2014 at 10:39 pm

    Cathryn, it’s not that the church is full of hypocrites, it’s that we’re all screw ups. We have a difficult time trying to follow ten simple commandments. Jesus Christ made it simple for us to remember the ten commandments by condensing it down to two. God knows we’re screw-ups so he gave us the sacrament of reconciliation. It’s not just saying your sins to a priest then doing your penance and you’re out the door. It’s also counseling, helping you to stop doing things that’s not only offensive to God, but also offensive to your family, friends, or anyone.

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    September 2, 2014 at 10:52 pm

    dr, I don’t think Carin was judging. I think she was just observing what Frank was doing during his life. She didn’t say whether he was in heaven or he’ll. That would be judging.

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    September 2, 2014 at 11:06 pm

    I am no genius, however it did not take long for me to work out that wishing or praying for something has never delivered a result , show me one instance when the pias are on bended knee begging and wailing for a result and the almighty( man? )has responded?? just sayin, oh yeah! , I also used to firmly believe in the tooth fairy !but it did not take long for a simpleton like me debunk that one WAKE UP up you believers

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    September 2, 2014 at 11:13 pm

    Chad, you, and many others who share your thoughts on the Catholic Church really need to back up your claims and statements with reliable facts. I agree there was the sex abuse scandals within the church and there is so much more in the public school system. The church had a concordat with Hitler and his government, which still stands today. The church, both Catholics and Protestants, denounced Hitler and his final solution. The idea that the Catholic church supported Hitler started in the 1960’s with some play. If you want to know how the church treated the Jews during WWII, find out what prominent Jews during that time frame, and immediately after it said about the Pope and the Catholic church. Some of it may be negative but you might be surprised by what you find.

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    Hugh G Rection

    September 2, 2014 at 11:39 pm

    Sinatra’s funeral was held at the Roman Catholic Church of the Good Shepherd in Beverly Hills, California

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    September 2, 2014 at 11:40 pm

    You could be talking about any number of catholic priests my friend.

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    September 2, 2014 at 11:47 pm

    Thank you to organized religion for these senseleess wars.

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    J Cobb

    September 3, 2014 at 12:04 am

    The thoughts expressed (whether by Frank or a proxy) appears that of an agnostic, not an atheist.

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    Megan Wilson

    September 3, 2014 at 12:05 am

    The interview was okay, but reading these comments is giving me cancer. Guys, quit parroting Richard Dawkins and acting like you sound profound or clever. You’re not.

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    Betty D. Stevens

    September 3, 2014 at 12:10 am

    Amen Jon

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    Death Dancer

    September 3, 2014 at 12:30 am

    Ahhh, but show me the people who dropped out of high school during the depression who had astonishing elocution. Sinatra was a highly intelligent man. He could not have risen to the power which he held without that. I do agree that Playboy at times would “punch up” an article. But the ideas and philosophy forwarded there are those of the man quoted. I’m an historian of popular music and those who changed it from the 1930’s thru 1960’s. Trust me in this, the Sinatra I have read about was deeply spiritual but not religious.

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    September 3, 2014 at 12:32 am

    First of all….don’t believe everything you read. Allow for freedom of speech or some day we may not have it. Everyone has the right to their opinion, no matter how messed up WE think it is……Just MY opinion 🙂

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    September 3, 2014 at 1:06 am

    Yeah you would…

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    September 3, 2014 at 2:12 am

    I have a question. Where is the link to the interview? The red colored words, “old interview”, doesn’t show the original interview at least it didn’t when I try to link myself to the (old interview). So I would like more proof. I would just like to see more proof. So if this is a glitch could it please be fixed. Thank You.

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    Eduardo Tijerino

    September 3, 2014 at 2:33 am

    The Baltimore Catechism that I read as a little boy had the following Q & A:
    Q: Why did God make me?
    A: God made me so I can love, honor, and obey him.

    Really? God, the supreme being is so needy and insecure that he needs to create a race of people whom he presented with two choices, love, honor, and obey him or go to hell (eternal suffering) if you don’t.

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    Robert McRae

    September 3, 2014 at 2:39 am

    Blah blah blah

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    September 3, 2014 at 3:13 am

    One way to solve all of this. Prove to everyone using true evidence that god exists…, not using the bible or other RELIGIOUS book, scroll, etc… that he exists, being as such that you cannot prove the existence or truth of something by using that item itself. BTW “faith” doesnt count either. i have faith that if you burn hydrogen and oxygen together you get water, but I can PROVE that faith with evidence by the act of doing it. Especially since if you use actual existing historical records even the bible is proven false when it cones to people existing/ruling etc.

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    September 3, 2014 at 3:18 am

    He completely contradicts himself in the same question. First he says he doesnt believe in a personal god to look to for comfort but then he says a few lines further that God knows what each of us want and need. Diametrically opposite positions.

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    Charlie Bennett

    September 3, 2014 at 3:39 am

    You people aren’t thinking. This was not Sinatra responding. This was a hired writer. Hello?

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    September 3, 2014 at 3:41 am

    Judge not lest you be judged yourself? Take the log out of your own eye…?

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    September 3, 2014 at 3:51 am

    I’m amazed by all the people here who knew him personally and have been present during that interview.

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    September 3, 2014 at 4:23 am

    Dirty dog1776 – “My gosh, Mr. Sinatra makes some intelligent statements, but not sure if I want to take advice from a narcissistic mobster who had people’s legs broken, committed adultery, got drunk, controlled people’s lives, worshiped fame and money over all else and cavorted with prostitutes.”

    Had Frank confessed his sins, God would of had to forgive him!!
    I guess that would also hold true if Hitler had confessed his sins!!

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    September 3, 2014 at 5:27 am

    Love his music, love him even more for his thoughts. It is all so clear why they made up so many stories about him being tied to mobsters.

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    September 3, 2014 at 5:30 am

    Sad how nasty gossip is taken as fact. Of course he was smeared with views like that. Smearing their detractors is the forte of the church. Nasty, malicious…unconscionably bearing false testimony and judging without good cause…based solely on gossip. Justifying hate via malicious discrediting lies in the name of god is exactly what Sinatra was referring to.

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    September 3, 2014 at 5:59 am

    Listen to any interview Sinatra ever did. You think because a guy’s from Jersey, he can’t use proper English? Get a grip, bigot.

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    Gary Bolen

    September 3, 2014 at 8:52 am

    Anybody getting ready for the new crusades? Anybody want a new caliphate? Another fight between Moslems and Christians .. Again?. Really? “Gimme that old time organized religion”? ” onward Christian soldiers… Again? Power, insanity, greed, hate…. Unbelievable bigotry and hatred is everywhere and free to anyone. Mankind? Ethnic cleansing for sport? Wtf? Right?

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    Bruce Berkheimer

    September 3, 2014 at 10:28 am

    True, there are bad religions, more to the point of the responsibility to search for God’s sanctioned church. As the New Testament says, ” one Lord, One faith, one baptism. There are many good churches in the world. I believe there is one true church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints

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    Todd Yoakum

    September 3, 2014 at 11:23 am

    Sounds like the life of a preacher.

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    Dartagnon Puissant

    September 3, 2014 at 11:51 am

    Some of us do some research to become smarter than the rest! Don’t hate the learned!!!

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    Dartagnon Puissant

    September 3, 2014 at 11:54 am

    This is EXACTLY why Sinatra disliked organized religion! For good cause!

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    September 3, 2014 at 1:29 pm

    Yes. Please investigate the claims “against’ the Catholic church having to deal with their complete ignorance to the myriad sexual abuse cases they were well aware of.

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    Chris Meadows

    September 3, 2014 at 1:52 pm

    Whether he actually said it verbatim or not, you can bet he had final approval over its content and wouldn’t have let it run if it didn’t express exactly what he wanted to say.

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    AL Pisanelli

    September 3, 2014 at 2:30 pm

    Bud Abbott and Lou Costello, Laurel and Hardy, Bruce Willis, Jack Nicklaus, etc.

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    September 3, 2014 at 2:34 pm

    So true

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    AL Pisanelli

    September 3, 2014 at 2:36 pm

    Lists forget the crusades, probably the one major reason Islam cats it’s have against xitans of all forms

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    September 3, 2014 at 3:38 pm

    haha so you’re saying that Christians weren’t womanizers? That’s a funny one!

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    September 3, 2014 at 4:03 pm

    Liberal sensitive babies all of you , not one of you know anything about him personally except for craps you read. Thought shall not judge stupid @$%#&.

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    September 3, 2014 at 4:25 pm

    Bravo. Wonderfully put.

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    September 3, 2014 at 4:29 pm

    The ones who follow an organized religion are the ones separated from god. The things Sinatra are talking about are unity with god.

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    Kathy T

    September 3, 2014 at 4:34 pm

    And I suppose you are perfect??!! Frank made a good point and I happen to agree with hm. Too many people have been brainwashed with the fear and control that “organized religion” has taught them. (or you).
    Pretty sad that you don’t have a mind of your own. I am a recovering catholic and am very happy about that.

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    Robert DeMars

    September 3, 2014 at 5:02 pm

    Mr Sinatra,
    As a former Catholic, I thank you for the courage of your words. I always knew you had the guts to do things ‘Your Way’, but to have said them in 1963 is just incredible !
    Frankie – I’m a new fan !

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    September 3, 2014 at 5:04 pm

    Yes no is perfect and we do need to think for our self.Life is what you make it

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    Another Jon

    September 3, 2014 at 6:41 pm

    So agree with your comment. As well, we were taught to “drink his blood” and “eat his body”. Really? Eat the body of a 2000 year old dead man? Riiiiggghhhttt….

    The absolute worst, modern blood ritual is the Catholic Trans-substantiation during Mass. Cloaked in shadowy, psuedo-intellectual idiocy, and foisted upon children (children!) at impressionable early ages. How very sick. Only a Roman created God-Man myth would involve some type of blood ritual. What idiocy.

    Even as an 11 yr old, I began to question this Catholic ‘sickness’, all my years thinking it was ME who was wrong to doubt. By 30, I had pretty much gone through ‘withdrawal’ (because leaving Catholicism is quite like quitting a hard drug).

    Imho, religion has set Humanity’s progress back at least 2500 years. How sad.

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    September 3, 2014 at 6:50 pm

    My beliefs are very close to Mr. Sinatra’s. I dare ANYONE to tell me that my life is a shambles. It is patently FALSE to imply that a man cannot live a good, wholesome life without religion in it.

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    September 3, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    Yes, because Planet Kolob figures heavily in the New Testament.

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    Another Jon

    September 3, 2014 at 8:16 pm

    Doesn’t matter Phil. The RCC set itself up as a Moral vanguard, and even suggested that the Pope was ‘infallible’ on Earth. Sorry, no. Fail. There is no argument to make at this point in history which can in any manner apologize for the terrible influence the RCC has had on Humanity’s course on this Earth.

    No agency can set itself up as an Authority of God’s Love, then molest children by abusing that trust. In a just world, at the first validated existence of child molestation (now decades ago), the UN would have declared the RCC an outlaw organization, seized it’s assets, revoked the sovereignty/statehood of the Vatican City and barred the RCC from continuing to practice in any of it’s member nations.

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    September 3, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    Um, what?

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    September 3, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    Actually Frank’s my good friend’s cousin. So you’re wrong.

    “…innocent little 12-year-old Negro girl as she tried to enroll in public school? Weren’t they — or most of them — devout churchgoers? I detest the two-faced who pretend liberality but are practiced bigots in their own mean little spheres.”

    What? Frank was lying?

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    Norman Allen

    September 3, 2014 at 9:11 pm

    I wish I knew this about Sinatra when he was alive. He was not only a great singer but a philosopher, a scholar and a gentleman. I wish there were more VOCAL rational thinkers among the Hollywood crowd now like him….and wish the media had the guts to publish articles about rationalism, logical thoughts, science as it does about publishing rubbish….

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    Michael, Portugal

    September 3, 2014 at 9:21 pm

    Oh boy, Reagan started the dissembling of the unions and and regulations and look where we’ve ended up. Grateful for your Wall-mart job? You should be. Whether the interview was “ghosted” or not, It’s a totally intelligent point of view.

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    Michael, Portugal

    September 3, 2014 at 9:39 pm

    Yours is the first one that made me laugh! Thanks.

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    September 3, 2014 at 11:31 pm

    @ Nick: You sir, show the ignorance of your cult.

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    September 4, 2014 at 1:27 am

    Mr. Sinatra it would be good if were true that your goodness was to still exist in some form somewhere, but it doesn’t. Your answers are brilliant, your honesty disarming, your observations the mark of a man with a brain, not just an enormous talent. Bigger fan now, even more so.

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    Cranky Yankee

    September 4, 2014 at 1:37 am

    And deluded, illiterate conservatives “know” everything about Him… how, exactly?

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    Will Niskanen

    September 4, 2014 at 3:35 am

    I think that somewhere between Sinatra’s own views and the assistance of a PR-oriented writer lies the truth. I don’t think that what we see here should be considered a transcript of Mr, Sinatra’s responses. Verbatim? I don’t think it’s realistic to think so.

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    j web

    September 4, 2014 at 6:18 am

    I doubt those were spoken comments by Sinatra, sounds more like written responses by a pro writer.

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    Dy-lan Sprintcome

    September 4, 2014 at 6:31 am

    Interesting but the deceased don’t always pick their ceremony spots. May just as well have been set up at the church by someone in the family as it may have been for him to choose in his will. And the majority of services happen at churches, still do today.

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    September 4, 2014 at 10:50 am

    So what….That statement makes no scents at all Hugh

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    Marty Abelon

    September 4, 2014 at 11:54 am

    Whoever wrote this was spot on. Religions suck.

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    September 4, 2014 at 12:08 pm

    You have made a good point out of all this bs

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    September 4, 2014 at 2:59 pm

    Your comment about faith and being able to prove that faith with evidence by the act of doing, completely goes against what faith means. Faith is to beleive, or trust in something with the logical proof. I think true Christians have faith that God does exist without needing that proof. And why would you need proof? Look at all the wonders in each and every day of your life. That’s your proof.

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    September 4, 2014 at 4:02 pm

    It’s funny how a PLAYBOY Magazine interviewer thought that not being devoutly religious is something shocking. The verse that contains, “Thou shalt drool over etchings of women who weareth nothing but bunny ears,” must be right before the part where it’s mentioned that the pimps must wear a red smoking jacket robe every day to atone for their sins.

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    Jack Sterling

    September 4, 2014 at 4:07 pm

    My dad played golf with him when I was a young man. My dad told me a lot about the guy in mt youth. Frank is on my car stereo each and everyday.. I know a lot about him and am happy to keep it private.. Love you uncle Frank.

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    Natalie Ray

    September 4, 2014 at 9:09 pm

    That Sinatra’s savvy words live on today via an old interview with Playboy
    Magazine is so deliciously apt. He’d love it & so do I! Natalie Ray September 4 @ 16:07:39

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    September 5, 2014 at 1:10 am

    Agnosticism and atheism refer to different philosophical concepts. Agnosticism refers to personal opinions on knowledge. An agnostic says, I can never be 100% sure, a gnostic says, I am certain. Atheism and theism, however, refer to belief in a deity. Any person who does not believe in a deity is an atheist. Any person who does is a theist. One can either be an agnostic atheist, An agnostic theist, a Gnostic atheist, or a Gnostic theist. There is no middle ground. you can not both believe and not believe at the same time.

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    John Gesselberty

    September 5, 2014 at 2:59 am

    And yet science accepts without proof, multiple universes, black holes, bending space, unseen dimensions and unseen theorized particles. Your argument is a failure.

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    Casey Worden

    September 5, 2014 at 8:27 am

    Go to the liberry, read the playboy. I do wonder about the backlash tho.

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    September 5, 2014 at 10:33 am

    With regard to this article on organised religion, whether it was Sinatra or not, I have to agree with a lot that was said. Now in reply to your comment my following
    comment will not prove God exist because you cannot prove my word. However this is my testimony. I was born into the Catholic religion like most babies of the world are born into a religion, which we call indoctrinated into a faith. I left the Church around 18 and lived my life according to me and I ended up frustrated, angry and I didn’t like myself and unfortunately could not escape myself as I am not one for drugs or alcohol or prescribed medication, I was 27 1/2 and luckily I came to my senses at a New Years Eve party after meeting 2 Catholics who reeked “peace” and I knew what was missing – it was God, but this time I didn’t want religion I wanted to research and find truth. After 14 months solid study and seeking with my whole being I came to the conclusion that Jesus was God in the flesh, that He ate, He talked,He lived among mankind, revealed Himself and died for me on the cross for the forgiveness of sin and reconciliation. After coming to this final conclusion that Jesus is who He said He was I was certainly not expecting what happened next,simply because I didn’t believe it could happen but I was in the presence of God Himself in my room, I could not see Him as He is spirit, I also had what felt like oil being poured inside of me and His love was penetrating, you could actually experience and feel the love. He is so loving, so humble and so gentle that the depth of it is immeasurable. I could not stop crying and saying “sorry, thank you” and “why is our heart so far away from your heart?” as what I thought was good does not compare to Him, He truly is the only One who is good. He walked with me for 6 days, I didn’t eat, I didn’t need to, He sustained me. When I went out in the public shops I got to “see” His response, He loves everyone, He doesn’t gossip or judge, He cries for those who are sick and disabled, He hurts when another human will not help another in the smallest way. On the 7th day He left and I thought I had sinned but He has given me the Holy Spirit who has taught me and led me and corrected me over the past 25 years since. I have come to know by my experience that the following Bible verses are true statements,
    “that those who diligently seek Him with their whole body, mind and soul will find Him” and “we are like filthy rags in the sight of God”, that’s what I felt like in His presence but He didn’t judge me instead poured out His love into me, because I had accepted and received Jesus and the Cross.
    Lastly He asked me to go tell people that He loves them and for them to come out of ignorance and into the knowledge of Him. I hope you will take a sincere search for God and have your own unshakable experience too.

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    September 5, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    That’s odd. I clicked the link and was taken to and the interview is there in its entirety.

    I do find it odd that this is turning up on many sites (google and bing searches) as “recently rediscovered” material. Must be a slow news day, as the website linked published the interview in 2006.

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    September 5, 2014 at 5:10 pm


    But knowing what is known about Sinatra, do you really believe he would have allowed all the things said in the interview to be presented as his opinion if it were not the case?

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    ursula (@ursulas)

    September 6, 2014 at 7:16 am

    He spoke of Fox News before he could have know about the travesty it is:
    “We in America pride ourselves on freedom of the press, but every day I see, and so do you, this kind of dishonesty and distortion not only in this area but in reporting — about guys like me, for instance, which is of minor importance except to me; but also in reporting world news. How can a free people make decisions without facts? If the press reports world news as they report about me, we’re in trouble.”

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    September 6, 2014 at 9:17 am

    The point remains, whether Sinatra or Jesus himself or Lucifer or Yogi Berra wrote this: Is it accurate? I think it is. Needing it to be from Frank to lend credence to what is written, is simply a very puerile call to authority.

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    Ed Werder

    September 7, 2014 at 2:52 am

    What are u talking about – ghostwriting ? If Playboy conducted an “interview” with a ghostwriter sitting next to Sinatra or alone with the writer after the fact – the writer and Playboy would have no credibility. Are you saying this was not a real interview. Or that Mike Shore sat in for Sinatra ????

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    September 7, 2014 at 8:10 am

    John your a moron, science doesn’t prove those things. They are theories, at this point in time, with the information we have, they are the best answers. Science is always will to change with no information. Religion isn’t. Gravity is a theory. If tomorrow we found out that there was a better explanation, the theory of gravity would be disproved. But my bed, and I dare say yours, with the information that we have is that gravity exists.

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    Michael Banner

    September 7, 2014 at 9:51 am

    No, it doesn’t. It tries to find physical evidence in support of theoretical phenomena. Science does not accept anything without evidence!

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    September 7, 2014 at 9:51 am

    God is an illusion, a necessity created in the hearts and minds of mankind out of fear of the unknown.

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    September 7, 2014 at 12:47 pm

    You only have a RIGHT to your opinion when it concerns personal preference. Example: “I think that Harvey was the best movie of all time.”
    You do not have an RIGHT to your opinion concerning testable and verifiable scientific processes or evidence.
    Example: “I think that the Earth is flat and vaccines cause autism.”

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    September 7, 2014 at 1:24 pm

    Golly, you sound nuts!

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    September 7, 2014 at 4:35 pm

    “Puerile”? Gimme me a break, do you feel important using words you just looked up in a thesaurus?

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    September 7, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    Let’s make this a bit more clear…

    “Any person who does not believe in a deity is an atheist. Any person who does is a theist.”

    Not quite…

    Any person who does not believe in a deity… According to his or her opinion on what this deity is… Is a person with an opinion… Who then may claim to be something that doesn’t actually exist… That being an atheist.

    Any person who does believe in a deity… According to his or her opinion on what this deity is… Is a person with an opinion… Who then may claim to be something that doesn’t actually exist… That being a theist.

    The interesting thing is that both must believe — as in, be engaged in the act of believing.

    And it is at this common point — the act of believing — that religion cannot enter a person’s thought, other than through choice.

    Meaning… Believing is directly related to a person’s choice.

    Which… Would you know it… Is what the Judeo/Christ scriptures declare.

    No, not religion… Just the scriptures.

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    September 8, 2014 at 1:53 pm

    So your implication is that conservative people are illiterate…..

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    September 8, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    Umm.. it actually doesn’t. It posits ideas and subjects them to tests. Black holes can be seen because gas and debris falling into them can be seen. Multiple universes are hypothesize not accepted. . You haven’t a clue what you’re talking about. Your argument Is a failure.

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    Michael Hoos

    September 9, 2014 at 11:26 am

    Science has the proof for all of those things. It’s called physics and the proof is built on the labor of the scientists who worked hard at demonstrating it. Religion is built on imagined revelations. Science shows its work not just its answers. Science bends to new information, while religion shuns it in order to protect its aire of infallibility. That alone makes religion a sham. Have faith in the lies if it makes you feel better, but I’ll take my advice from the people who can prove what they say and who allow me to add to the conversation with new proofs.

    Your argument, sir is the one that fails. It fails because you have attempted to ignore facts in order to maintain your premise. Science has theorized of many unseen things, which all have been demonstrated, including those in your list.

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    September 9, 2014 at 3:41 pm

    Wow! What a moving and wonderful experience you shared! I have no words but a thousand questions! God bless you for sharing.

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    September 10, 2014 at 1:44 am

    When you say “science accepts..multiple universes,” you’re implying “science is certain of the truth of multipe universes,” which is completely false. It’s a straw man: you’re trying to equate science with religious faith.

    First of all, science does NOT prove. Proof is the realm if mathematics and formal logic, not science. In science, you have varying degrees of confidence (a new concept, John?) in an idea depending on the quantity and quality of evidence that supports that idea.

    Your statement makes no sense whatsoever. The idea of multiple universes solves some problems in astrophysics if it is true, and it is mathematically plausible. That does not mean that any scientist is certain that it’s true. Far more evidence will have to be found to support the idea before it progresses beyond the speculative.

    Do you see how science differs from religion?

    And yet, the idea of multiple universes is no wackier than the idea of a creator god. In fact, the god idea cannot be tested, so it’s even more ridiculous.

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    September 10, 2014 at 5:32 am

    I thought I had a very unique and rare experience because I had never met or read or believed you could actually find God in a real tangible way, however when I began to share what had happened to me among a few new Christian ladies at a home for a birthday party, they just smiled and nodded their heads reminiscing back to their experience with God, I was amazed that they too had this similar experience. Also, 4 years ago my brother had the same experience and he told me “For the past 20 years you would talk about God, I thought good for you but I’m okay thanks, not for me” Now he says to me “I just wish that everyone would come and experience this, the love of God is so amazing, but they just don’t want it”.
    I replied, “I know, I feel the same. God is so beautiful and your life is never the same, even in the trials and tribulations the peace and joy and trust in Him is unshakable, you would never go back to your old life would you?”
    The change in my brother is so beautiful and I would confess by the worlds standard he was a good law abiding person before his encounter with God, but the difference in his countenance and confidence is dramatic, he is God centered not self-centered, loves doing acts of kindness, talks to anyone, loves reading the Bible, attends Church, everyone who knows him comments that Todd is amazing, he is so different. He allows the Holy Spirit to work through him and he and others are benefiting from it. I am so over joyed every time I see him knowing we are finally on the same page. You can ask me any question you like if I can answer it I will. God bless you too.

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    Marty Abelon

    September 11, 2014 at 12:17 am

    Some conservatives illiterate.

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    September 11, 2014 at 7:02 pm

    Amazing incite! Well said Franky!

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    Syed Qasim Raza

    September 12, 2014 at 5:36 pm

    One should at least try to find the truth and believe in it with his own analysis and experiences with the help of accumulated knowledge received from any source. IOne, who can not decide for himself, will depend upon opinion and judgement by others. I feel pity and sympathy for them.

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    September 13, 2014 at 7:49 am

    So, it turns out Frank didn’t say those things at all. Mike Shore is the man guilty of contriving this for ol’ Frank.

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    September 27, 2014 at 6:18 pm

    Although, something smells fishy about your grammar, Michael! 😉

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    Christine Loughead

    October 10, 2014 at 10:59 am

    Liberry???!!!! If you can’t spell it perhaps don’t refer to it ! I can’t believe that of all the words you could have misspelled you misspelled library .

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    November 5, 2014 at 5:38 am

    If Frank received any backlash over this, I’ve never heard of it. In contrast, three years later, when John Lennon, referring to the Beatles’ popularity, said they were “bigger than Jesus” — a figure of speech, not a boast by any means — many of their records were publicly burned and Lennon had to “apologize” for that misconstrued remark while on tour in the U.S. Wonder what Sinatra thought of that.

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    Pinky Nixon

    November 24, 2014 at 3:13 am

    I wouldn’t call him ahead of his time for this; intelligent people have known the truth of what Frank said ever since the first conman met the first fool, and religion was born.

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    Ramon Tovar

    December 25, 2014 at 9:39 pm

    That’s a beautiful church with a progressive clergy and a fitting place for a man of Sinatra’s thinking to be laid to rest.

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    Karen Thompson

    December 30, 2014 at 4:02 pm

    Mental illness causes all of those sensations, feelings, and thoughts. You are simply interpreting your internal mental queues as being from God when in reality they are from your brain. If the idea of a “God” helped you than I am happy for you, but to put that much weight on something intangible and 100% imaginable is not always the best or right way to sort through mental health issues. Take a look at your parents and you will see where all of your confusion, dysfunctions, delusions, allusions, disorders, etc. came from. All parents pass on their mental disorders, illness, and dysfunctions to their children, hence the phrase “the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.” 1 in 4 adults has some form and degree of diagnosable mental illness, disorder, dysfunction, or affliction almost always caused from receiving poor parenting or from childhood trauma, abuse, or neglect to some degree. The problem is that everyone is also taught to “respect your parents” even when they don’t deserve it, at the same time everyone is taught “respect must be earned.” We have all been brainwashed with oxymorons while cementing into us to never question our parent’s responsibility for the way we turned out. Personality disorders all come from our parents or caregivers. Our brains, personality, ways of thinking, feeling, and behaving, all come from our environment when we were between the ages of 0 and 27.

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    Karen Thompson

    December 30, 2014 at 4:08 pm

    You clearly missed this fact: “Over 25,000 organized religions flourish on this planet, but the followers of each think all the others are miserably misguided and probably evil as well.” But he should have added “the followers AND MEMBERS of each religion think that all others are miserably misguided……”
    There is nothing worse than someone thinking that “their” religion is supreme and that is exactly what has caused so many problems.

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    Karen Thompson

    December 30, 2014 at 4:19 pm

    Even though these are not Frank’s words, they are good messages that Frank not only agreed with, he applauded and approved.

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    Catholic Boarding School

    January 3, 2015 at 9:14 pm

    Frank Sinatra had his first full Catholic marriage annulled. He had a second wife but it was a civil union. After his first marriage was annulled by the Catholic Church which took alot of money, he remarried his 3rd wife in the Catholic Church. Thereby insuring a Catholic funereal. I bet all that really ticked off St. Peter at the Golden Gates. By the way, I was raised a very strict Catholic.

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    Catholic Boarding School

    January 3, 2015 at 9:23 pm

    Frank Sinatra had left the Catholic Church at this time of his life. He later had his first Catholic marriage annulled, his second civil marriage did not matter, he renewed his 3rd marriage vows in the church. Thereby insuring being buried with full church services but of course you cannot buy yourself a place in heaven, and he must have really pissed off St. Peter. Only God knows where his soul is….

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    January 5, 2015 at 9:11 am

    TOP STORY: William Blake’s views on organized religion are “centuries ahead of his time”

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    David whitson

    January 6, 2015 at 9:46 am

    What were his thoughts on organized crime ?

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    January 24, 2015 at 7:36 am

    25Jan15…..Frank’s comments were in 1963. At the time he knew that he was going to ‘ croak, ‘ he had the priest on call all the time. Just before they closed the cover on his box, his daughter Nancy put a dime in his pocket in case he ‘ could ‘ make phone call…..and a copy of the New Testament…..just in case…..

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    Belle Rita Novak

    February 11, 2015 at 11:49 pm

    And the Golden Rule was first in the Hebrew scriptures.

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    February 12, 2015 at 3:22 pm

    So many religious apologists, so much bulls**t. Deal with reality you simpletons. The religious are the most violent, divisive, ignorant demographic in existence. You had your chance a long time ago. We call that time The Dark Ages. You’ve held us back for long enough and now you’ve been reduced to clutching at straws, while the bigoted religious leaders have one hand on your tiny, easily manipulated “minds” and the other on your wallets. Try following the social laws as laid out in the bible and you’ll find yourselves locked up quicker than you can say:
    “Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves.” Numbers 31:17-18

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    Tom Meyers

    February 13, 2015 at 4:14 am

    Frank was actually a great reader and much deeper than the general public knows…take this from a fellow Who grew up a few towns north of Frank’s Hoboken..

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    February 16, 2015 at 7:25 am

    17Feb15…..Even Pope Francis would ‘ think ‘ that you are fulla schidt to the eyeballs, while I say that you are….

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    February 17, 2015 at 10:56 am

    18Feb15…..What in da hell has your growing up a few towns north of Frank’s Hoboken……there are arseholes who grew up a few towns north of Pope Francis’ hometown…….

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    Mike Stoye

    February 19, 2015 at 11:20 am

    Excuse me, but Ben Franklin left school at the age of 12, and was close friends with the Governors of NY and Penn while he was still a teenager. He also confessed that he was not a good orator, but man could he write! Plus there is plenty of evidence that Frank was a very bright individual.

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    Bob Loblah

    February 20, 2015 at 2:11 am

    20Feb15…..Frank wasn’t very bright at all. Yes, he could speak…but only in the movies where he had plenty of time to study and remember his lines. Also, with time and importance he was able to ‘ ad lib. ‘ His lack of brightness allowed him to leave his first wife Nancy to run off with someone else…..his kids hated him for this. He even married Mia Farrow when he was 107 and she was 12 for God’s sake. That lasted a coupla months. In addition, he married Ava Gardner ( who saved his sorry arse by getting him a role in ………..where he garnished an Oscar for best-supporting actor. )…..but he couldn’t hold onto her as she was more so into living in Spain and frolicking around with the bull fighters. Frank had no nerve for that one…..

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    Doug Olias Vencill

    February 21, 2015 at 6:37 pm

    Your functional illiteracy belies & negates any point you just attempted to make. Get some remedial schooling before you post.

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    Joshua Queen

    March 28, 2015 at 7:16 am


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    Joshua Queen

    March 28, 2015 at 7:20 am

    Your first coupe of sentences! I was going to say whether he said it or not, whether this is a hoax or fact, it is well said and I agree with it fully. There was so much more he could of said too, haha. What was said or written here is awesome.

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    Joshua Queen

    March 28, 2015 at 7:25 am

    Who care who wrote it. It is pretty accurate and well said.

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    April 2, 2015 at 10:47 am

    Not bad Sinatra

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    Geoff Smith

    April 5, 2015 at 10:28 pm

    I that why he offered half of his fortune to the Pope if the Pope guaranteed salvation?

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    April 8, 2015 at 9:48 am

    That he offered only half says a lot about how much he really believed in salvation. I think he was calling the Pope’s bluff.

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    April 8, 2015 at 9:50 am

    Shame, “big” words confusing you?

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    Bob Loblah

    April 8, 2015 at 10:21 am

    09Apr15…..You are fulla schidt to the eyeballs. Mr. Frank did NOT offer anything to the Pope other than to think of the Pope as the head of the Holy Roman Catholic Church – the ONE True Church……….Stop your bullschidt. You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about….and a few others herein……..Go figure

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    April 8, 2015 at 12:07 pm

    One true church, meh. There is no such thing. If Jesus were alive today he would be swinging the whip inside the Vatican, and the Pope would be first on his list.

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    Bob Loblah

    April 8, 2015 at 2:17 pm

    09Apr15……ListenUPP ‘ jucedupp’….What you know about Jesus Christ and the Vatican, one can fit on the tip of your dick. You are just one of these arseholes who now-a-days run off at the mouth and by your very words only confirm that you haven’t even been out of your backyard.
    Ps:…..Get back down into your mommy’s basement and get on with your video game-playing while ‘ inhaling ‘ burgers, sodas, and chippys to maintain that 300 + lbs of lard that you drag around behind you. While you’re down there, haul your head out of your arsehole and take a look around you….its 2015….

    You are included in the category of ‘ schidt-for-brains ‘…….Forever and Ever…..BobLoblah

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    Louis Quatorze

    April 14, 2015 at 6:27 am

    frank sinatra had so many women and men “beaten up”, he was afraid to be a christian!

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    April 22, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    23Apr15….OK…..the age-old question to you is ‘ prove that there is NO God ‘ ……..and don’t come back with the schidt-for-brains answer ‘ you prove that there IS a God. You have been asked first. Go figure…..BobLoblah

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    Bob Loblah

    April 22, 2015 at 9:19 pm

    23Apr15…..While ‘ ol Frank did so kick the schidt out of a few women, it was only AFTER he left his first wife Nancy and began to feel sorry for her and even more so for himself. He continued to grow in stature and prominence in the world of entertainment ( especially singing ) and even landed a couple of good roles in movies….albeit most were on the comedy side…..but the general
    public enjoyed them.
    Meanwhile back at the ranch, while Frank was getting his ‘ nooky ‘ from his favourite Movie Starlet ‘ ava gardner ‘ …..’ol ava used to kick the schidt out of Frank from time to time….especially whenever she found out he was banging waitresses at the Sands hotel in Los Vegas.
    Don’t ask BobLoblah…..just ask Howard Huges’ keeper of the keys…….

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    Patrick Egan

    May 12, 2015 at 5:34 pm

    Sinatra was an avid reader throughout his lifetime. As an adult, he suffered from long stretched of insomnia, and would stay up until the wee small hours of the morning, reading anything and everything he could get his hands on to alleviate the boredom. Have you ever seen “The Manchurian Candidate”? The wide variety of books laying around Major Marco’s apartment was based on Sinatra himself. And after reading the novel, not the screenplay, “From Here To Eternity”, he saw himself as the only actor who could portray Maggio, and lobbied heavily for the role.
    As for him leaving school at an early age, well, you must have never read a book yourself. Frank was born in 1915, and lived in a relatively poor, working class section of Hoboken, New Jersey. Not many people finished grade school back then, let alone high school or college. The normal decision was to dropout as a teen and find a job that helped support you and your family. Luckily Frank was a natural singer, and he used that ability to earn money, while also teaching himself through reading, listening, and talking with others. He was “bright” enough to notice Tommy Dorsey’ technique of playing long, unbroken passages on the trombone through breath control, and devising a way to translate that to his vocals.Every Capitol concept album he recorded was imagined and organized by him ~ he chose the theme, and picked the songs to fit it.
    Because he was a hard drinker, a fighter, and a womanizer, people assume that he was also less than intelligent, but in concluding so, it says more about your bias and narrow world view than it does Sinatra. Being smart and acting impulsively are not mutually exclusive behaviors.The man lived life on his own terms ~ and yes, he hurt some people along the way, but history is filled with brilliant narcissists and egomaniacs who don’t always act according to the mundane standards of a bland, frightened society.
    BTW, doesn’t the bible teach to be tolerant, forgiving, and not to judge others? You might want to give that book a read before you make another foolish comment.

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    Hectar Nectar

    May 13, 2015 at 8:54 am

    14May15…..It was Ava Gardner who ‘ got ‘ Frank the part in From Here To Eternity. Nothing more. Nothing less.
    Frank’s mother swore worse than a dockside stevedore and carried out abortions at the time. Make no wonder her ‘ little boy ‘ grew up with no scruples. Frank ‘ deserted ‘ his first wife Nancy and having been Baptized into the Roman Catholic Church, he went against his ‘ sacred vow ‘ in marriage to Nancy ‘ to have and to hold, in sickness and in health, for better or for worse, until death us do part. ‘
    Frank couldn’t keep his drawers up. Why, even Howard Hughes who owned most of ‘ the Strip ‘ in Vegas during these times had Frank thrown out of the Sands on his ear for being drunk, arrogant, belligerent, and wanting ‘ more money ‘ to continue gambling. Howard was having none of it. You need to read up on these things. Truth is sometimes stranger than fiction. In addition, Frank was an arsehole. While on one hand he would help somebody out, on the other he would take someone down either with words or deeds. Frank would settle for ‘ nothing less ‘ than being the leader of the Rat Pack. He ‘ cried ‘ like a baby and Dean Martin in particular said ‘ Frank, if it means that much to you, take it. ‘ Everyone knew that when it came to comedy – which is what the Rat Pack was all about – it was Dean that kept the show on its feet…..while Frank believed he was the group by himself and spent his time ‘ packing Angie. ‘
    Yes sir, ‘ ol Blue Eyes sure knew how to keep ’em guessin’. Especially his family. Young Nancy, even today, is looking after the farm in order to live in the style she has become accustomed to. These boots were meant for walkin’ all over anyone or anything in order to make it so.
    Frank Sinatra…..bah, humbug…..nonsense. Wherever Frank is now, he needs all the help he can get to clean the record…and we don’t mean ‘ Sun ‘ Records tooooooooooooooooooooooo…..Go figure…

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    May 13, 2015 at 11:45 pm

    prove there is no easter bunny,haha good grief. the onus is on the believer.why should someone else have to prove something you made up does or does not exist,that is beyond preposterous. here’s a ‘question’ for you – prove everything you perceive to be real isn’t merely a figment of your imagination…that you aren’t merely the sole inmate in a myopic prison of your own making! starting to grasp how asinine your remark is now? if it were truly a question it wouldn’t be posed with the presumptive attitude that you already have all the answers.

    also you have the audacity to assume a ‘god’ is YOUR chosen monotheist diety,when in fact there could well be an infinite set of possibilities you haven’t and could not in this form begin to imagine which far surpass the senses with which you guage the world around you.the creator of the universe more likely than not has nothing to do with the fables you’ve accepted as fact based on your bias of fear and childish need for wish fulfillment,no one knows and that is needs at peace with yourself and realize that life is nature and not the social constructs of collective men.cherish this beautiful ephemeral existence because once your heart stops beating the only thing left are your deeds and actions.

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    May 14, 2015 at 2:25 am

    if you “dare have the intellectual courage” read Sir James Frazers the golden bough,Desmond Morris’ the naked ape,David Fideler’s ‘jesus christ,sun of god’ and anything and everything you can get your hands on by Joseph’re pseudo-intellectual pedantic posturing reeks of the cliche bullshit of yet another monotheist finger wagging snitch in a kangaroo court of denial exemplifying the exact true colors in countenance of a fraud and yet your have the brazen ignorance to proclaim yourself a man who adheres to the ways of love and compassion when you are really just another ‘look what i can do!’ cluck begging a gold star from your imaginary sky daddy and his bastard profit (sic) son in hopes of a pat on the head an ‘attaboy!’ from the pederast hierarchy and continuing on in your smug ‘holier than thou’ pose.

    frank didn’t sleep through catechism,he was wide awake and recognized it as the indoctrination of BS it was designed to be.
    a dupe for the dopes to keep them in line chasing the carrots of fear,ego and acceptance,and yet 2000 years later you still pull that cart never having tasted of the fruit (or vegetable in this case). snap out of it and get some truth by way of perspective which relies on reason and not emotion,you are not a child anymore and no one is coming to save nor is there a need for anyone to,if you need a fractured fairytale to provide you a moral compass then you need a sit and a long think.

    i leave you with a quote from Ambrose Bierce’s devils dictionary on the true definition of prayer “Pray, v. To ask that the laws of the universe be annulled in behalf of a single petitioner, confessedly unworthy.” .

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    Bob Loblah

    May 14, 2015 at 12:25 pm

    15May15…..True to tradition, you are stupid as a wannabee hAtheist.
    There is NO such thing as an atheist:
    …..Agnostic = Yes
    …..wannabe atheist = Yes
    …..hAtheist = Yes
    …..atheist = No

    When it comes to people like you, there’s more brains in a bottle of wadda.
    Ps: Funny thing, when Frank was ‘ on the way out ‘…..he wanted so much to have a priest at his side….prayer beads ‘n all. Ask Nancy ( jr. )….the keeper of the keys.

    Forever and Ever

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    May 14, 2015 at 12:31 pm

    15May15…..Gee. BobLoblah really takes ‘ the breath ‘ out of you. So much so that our sentence structure stinks. Guess it must be the hatefulness inside you that wants to make you rush onwards with your rantings.

    By the way….what kind of discussions to you and your wife have..???..What does she think about BobLoblah. Wanna guess…!!!….BobLoblah knows your exact situation on the homefront. You don’t have one…

    Ps:….You have your doubts about thingys, don’t you, as you stress in the following excerpt from your bullschidt…

    ‘ when in fact there could well be an infinite set of possibilities you haven’t and could not in this form begin to imagine which far surpass the senses ‘…..

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    Joseph Ciolino

    June 2, 2015 at 5:36 pm

    Bertrand Russell??? BERTRAND RUSSELL? Sinatra read, “Bertrand Russell”????

    And I’m Al Jolson.

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    Lila Richards

    June 8, 2015 at 4:16 am

    I wonder how he felt about organised crime…

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    Armando Erotico

    June 10, 2015 at 11:42 pm

    Of course the person who puts forward a contention that something is real bears the responsibility of supporting it.

    The fact is you also believe this to be true, but give yourself a self-serving exemption for the gods of your religion.

    If not being able to disprove something made it exist then Vishnu would be equally as real as the Jesus god, as well as every other god in every other religious system of all time.

    You don’t believe in Vishnu because there is no proof of his existence. I take the same line of reasoning, but go one god further to include yours.

    Bottom line disproving the existence of nothing isn’t possible, and there is no logical or empirical reason to think the invisible extraplanar Jesus god is any more real than nothing (or any of the other god systems).

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    Bob Loblah

    June 13, 2015 at 2:14 am

    13Jun15…..When Frankie baby was starting out, it was the grand old mafia that used to buy up ALL his records to give the public the general impression that he was really selling lots and doing well. However, this put Frankie in debt to the ‘ boys ‘ so much so that when he welched on the deal they had his son kidnapped and eventually got some money out of it. Frankie tried to hide in the bosom of JFK….but became frightened schidtless when the mafia got JFK in their crosshairs for ‘ shagging ‘ one to many women who turned out to be the girlfriend of one of the head hunchos. And that’s the truth……
    Forever and Ever

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    July 7, 2015 at 10:48 am

    Same . I wasn’t a huge fan of his music but I never hated it either. I’d imagine I should really take a listen .

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    July 8, 2015 at 9:13 pm

    Wouldn’t that make scene as Christianity is biased of off Judaism. What is the point of bring up an individual religion here as it adds nothing of relevance to this article. One doesn’t need to commit to a single religion to have faith in god. As he said there are 25,000 different religions and its sad to see how every single one of them is so pig headed that they can’t even accept the validity of another.

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    July 19, 2015 at 1:19 pm

    Amen Patrick!
    My father dropped out of high school at the age of 16 to enlist in the navy (pre-WWII). Earned his GED while serving and worked his way up to Chief Petty Officer. Never took advantage of the GI Bill for education, married and raised 6 children. Post war worked for RCA (as a service technician at a Philadelphia hospital) and devised or invented (under RCA) the “off button” on the remote control. The head of the Engineering department wanted to know which college my father attended. Needless to say my father was a self taught man who also read ferociously and did the Sunday NY Times crossword puzzle.

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    Manny Naffa

    July 24, 2015 at 2:08 am

    Simply he was pure secular without tying himself to an organized religious or atheist group.

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    Bob Loblah

    July 26, 2015 at 8:39 pm

    27Jul15…..BobLoblah wouldn’t say that Frank tied himself to an atheist group…..he believed in God and told Baba Wadda so in an interview with her several years before he ‘ croaked. ‘ Mind you, he had ‘ prayer beads ‘ on his night stand along with a copy of the ‘ Catholic ‘ bible as he punched in his last round of living. When he sucked in his last breath, he uttered……” please God, forgive me “……no so much unlike the letter read out at the funeral of Teddyboy Kennedy who was a hell raiser back in the day and used women more than John Wayne and that’s sayin’ somethin’…..Go figure…

    Forever and Ever

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    Renan David Soria Ahumada

    September 13, 2015 at 9:03 pm

    when moses and his groupies
    kill and rape in numbers 31

    they do it following gods will?

    or did they lie about gods order here

    for what most of they bible i had readed

    the body count only gets higher

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    Mr. Cook

    September 15, 2015 at 3:43 pm

    A dyslexic agnostic insomniac stays up all night wondering if there’s a Dog.

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    September 24, 2015 at 6:21 am

    Bertrand Russell was an active and popular public figure at that point in time. Sinatra wouldn’t have had to read his works to know his opinions, Russell was constantly being interviewed about them. Which isn’t to say that Sinatra didn’t read Russell, for all I know he did.

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    Bob Loblalh

    October 15, 2015 at 7:16 am

    16Oct15…..Bertrand Russell you say….!!!!!!. Bertrand Russell’s brother Philip Russell lives just four houses down the street from me…..on the other side of the river…..along the South Side of Chicago along with Leroy Brown and if you go down there, you had better beware of a girl names Lucy Clown…….Go figure…

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    J. White

    October 18, 2015 at 11:46 pm

    I agree with you entirely. Sinatra did not have the educational backgroung to speak in the terms of the above script..quite possibly Playboy edited his answers to make him appear intelligent.

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    Ron Morales

    October 19, 2015 at 12:16 am

    There was nothing “ahead of his time” about these comments. These have been standard, facile criticisms of religion for a long time, and many of such criticisms are just historically ignorant, such as the oft uttered myth that Christianity has been the source of most of the wars of history (one just needs to list off all the wars they can think of to see how wildly wrong that myth is), or his unsubstantaited claim that religion has made many more steps backwards than steps forward. These are just ignorant atheist platitudes abd bumper sticker slogans that are contradicted by a rudimentary study of history. Christianity for one has been a civilizing force that eliminated child sacrifice, blood feuds in Europe, slavery, propelled the progressive and civil rights movements, was the source of countless pieces of artwork, music and history, inspired scientists to understand the handiwork of God, kept writing alive in Europe, and inspired countless charitable movements, etc.

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    Bob Loblah

    October 21, 2015 at 1:17 am

    21Oct15…..and you Mr. Ron Morales are a breath of fresh air. A rose among the thorns. How great thou arth with thy words of actualities and ‘ crispy ‘ crunching facts that has personified Christianity throughout the ages. Hatheists are indeed the main cause of the wrong and inept excuses made by excuses for human beings who are nothing more than schidt-for-brains.
    Someday, these miscreants will get their comeuppance as they begin to ‘ suck in ‘ their last breath and stick out their eyeballs while crying for their mommies.
    Ps: Keep up the good work and keep down the evil ones………Go figure…..Bob Loblah

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    Bob Loblah

    October 21, 2015 at 1:30 am

    21Oct15……Bob Loblah thinks that Frank’s old ‘ standby ‘……Anfie Dickinson gave him some clues on what to say at bedtime when they would ‘ pass the time away ‘ playing with each others widgets. He most certainly didn’t get it from Ava ( Gardener ) because she spent most of her time either kickin’ the schidt out of Frank or playing horsie with the bullfighters. Having said that, he did spend some time with Jackie ‘ O ‘ ( the woman who would Never marry again after Jack was killed …….people don’t know that her and JFK were discussing divorce at the time of his expiring ). Its possible that Jackie ‘ O ‘ gave Frank a few clues on readin’, writin’, and arithmetic to make up for the years he played hooky from both School and Sunday school……..Go figure…….Bob Loblah…

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    Bob Loblah

    October 21, 2015 at 1:32 am

    20Oct15…..The gold got melted down by the Jews from the golden calf and sold off for US dollars. How in the hell do you explain their owning Hollywood…..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!…….Go figure…..Bob Loblah

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    Jay Whitney

    November 14, 2015 at 9:12 am

    Yeh, ghosted–way too articulate and literary for FrankS

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    November 15, 2015 at 11:40 pm

    well I was going to say ; to NOT believe in something implies the possibility that it exists. but that may sound too clever!

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    Paul Walters

    November 22, 2015 at 10:03 pm

    Hyperreligiosity can be a symptom of many kinds of mental diseases. Then again, what prophet hasn’t been reviled as a madman? I, for one, hope you are right!

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    Tom Moe

    November 28, 2015 at 5:43 am

    There is something a bit off on the topic. It is like saying that one can develop intelligence without organized education. This is true to a point. However, like education, spirituality is best carried out in a group setting.
    For people like Renan, are you thinking any other group was more moral back in the era of 1500 BC?

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    Bob Loblah

    November 28, 2015 at 11:26 am

    29Nov15…..For those of you who are interested, there are still quite a few people around today that knew Frank and what his lifestyle was all about. Take Jerry Lewis for example. Some of the Kennedys ( from Robert Kennedy Sr. ) family spent plenty of time with Frank…albeit not drinking with him, but watching him drink. It was the style back then including lighting up a cigarette. Drinks and smokes went together. As previous owners of clubs and bars prior to the ‘ politically correct ‘ arseholes who have showed up in the past 25 years. How many of these clubs, lounges, and bars had to close up shop and thousands of people were left jobless. Never mind the hundreds of thousands of tobacco workers in foreign countries who no longer work in harvesting ‘ as much ‘ tobacco. But Frank sure kept the industry humming besides humming along with Ada…….Go figure…

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    Robert DeMars

    December 1, 2015 at 1:18 pm

    Study Science and Astronomy my Friends –
    – don’t be afraid !
    — be Hubble for a Day !
    –you’ll observe the ultra Awesomeness of our Universe, Nature and the veritable actual insignificance of Supersticous Man !

    Billions of Planets, Stars – even Gallaxies over endless Time — and ONE Ghostly, shy White Guy, with a Magic Wand created it ?
    Hmmm – – where was it I heard ?
    “And crawling on the Planets Face – some Insects called the Human Race – Lost in Time – Lost in Space — and Meaning” !
    Respectifully, Robert DeMars

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    Bob Loblah

    December 1, 2015 at 1:33 pm

    02Dec15…..The universe was created when GOD ‘ pharted ‘……

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    Peedee Wyre

    December 9, 2015 at 5:00 am

    The Golden Rule and the spirit of Matthew:25 (without the deity implied) are my ‘Natural/Organic’ alternative to religion. Kudos to Sinatra for being up-front about religion, especially more than 50 years ago. He was also extremely generous, giving away hundreds of millions of dollars “just because.” He was not a perfect man and not necessarily a great singer, but he was (and still is) “Da Man.” R.I.P., Crooner.

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    Bob Loblah

    December 9, 2015 at 4:55 pm

    10Dec15…..Wrong. You are fulla schidt to the eyeballs. While Frank Sinatra did so give to ‘ some ‘ charities and was somewhat generous, he NEVER had hundreds of $$ millions $$ to give. You need to readup some more on ‘ ol Blue Eyes. But it is true that he was ‘ bangin ‘ 2 waitresses at a time on the Strip in Vegas. This got him to be copied in The Godfather. His name preceded him wherever he went and he went so far as to advise Bobby Kennedy that Bobby’s brother John F. Kennedy had to ‘ knock it off ‘ when he was droppin’ his drawers to mafia dons’ women . Of course, Frank got the message via Bobby that JFK wanted nothing else to do with him. This put Frank into a ‘ tizzy ‘ and he hated the Kennedys from that point onwards…..
    ‘ Money For Nothing ‘……………..Dire Straits…
    Go figure…..Bob Loblah

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    Bob Loblalh

    December 9, 2015 at 4:59 pm

    10Dec15…..Now, don’t you try to tell Bob Loblah that Michaelangelo’s belief was a waste of time.
    ,,,and in modern times that Neil Armstrong was just ‘ too far out of touch ‘ to believe in GOD…….Go figure….BobLoblah

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    Robert DeMars

    December 9, 2015 at 6:24 pm

    Mr Lobiah – you dont have to believe in a Supreme God to look into the Universe and feel In awe of Nature – to be Spiritual !
    Michaelangelo was paid to paint/ chisel the pretty subjects demanded by the rich and powerful Pope. Whether he believed the Catholic Doctrine or just played along for the Facilities, the Job and the warm companionship of his Handsome Buddies is questionable.
    As to Neal Armstrong he was launched out of NASA in Houston Texas, fer Gods sake! It was 1969 – a time when NO ONE except the courageous, Madelin Murray O’Hare dared question Christianities God based fairy tales. And Madelin, along with her young Son and Daughter were savagely murderded by Knife and buried in barrells, for their 1964, Athiest challenges against forced Religion in our Public Schools. – Killed by Timothy McVei like, God believing Christians !
    Kind of like the the Allah persuading Bombers and Gun firing Religionists we see on TV today and almost every day !

    — Look at the Stars –
    – be one with the Universe
    – there in no God !

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    anita dorroll

    December 25, 2015 at 9:06 am

    Of course, churches should be tax just like any other organization that has a business and expendses. The business of a church is to spread it doctrim. So, go do it and keep a record of your expenses . If you have anything left at the end of the year, pay taxes on it. But a good church will have spend its money on working with its people and the groups they help: homeless, parentless, ill, helpless, needy, etc. Buy what you need but put a ceiling on salaries and on types of bonus and have a group of church members each year keeping up with a budget proposed by the members and the leaders. NO leader of a church should make millions of dollars. No church should own wealth beyoung a reasonable. It is time to look at fraud and kick out lies and fraud.

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    January 12, 2016 at 11:45 am

    13Jan16…..A church is a church is a church. And in the name of Jesus Christ every knee shall bend…….

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    Robert DeMars

    January 12, 2016 at 11:56 am

    Sounds like advocating a U.S. theocracy ! Like Iran ! Wonder what all the WitchDoctors would do if they had to get a legitimate job?

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    January 12, 2016 at 6:27 pm

    13Jan16…..Pay their taxes thereby reducing mine. Ps: How much taxes do you pay…..???…..Go figure….

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    Bob Loblah

    January 29, 2016 at 2:06 am

    30Jan16…..’ ol Frank had very little education. Ps: His momma swore like a drunken longshoreman. Guess that’s where the quips rubbed off. Anyways, he didn’t do to bad for the son of an abortionist with a clothing hanger….Go figure..Bob Loblah

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    But whatever it is, a lot of Jio users are looking to again the kind of speed that they would watch earlier. At the same time, the new ones, who have just connect the network, are looking for the speed that was promised to them. Now, when there is a requirement there is also supply. So, the internet is full of conspiracy and tips that will help a Jio user get good speed. But does it work? We tested some with results that can be called depressing. But before we tell you about these tricks and tips, some background on LTE bands.

    Reliance Jio 4G speeds

    Reliance Jio of 4G speeds have gone down post launch but overall LTE coverage in India has expanded, shows data from Speed test app maker Ookla. A post on Medium by Isla McKetta part of Ookla team high light show Jio has grown in India since the ‘Welcome offer’ went live in September.

    According to data from Ookla, they’ve seen a significant jump in the number of speed tests being done on Jio 4G LTE network from January to September 2016. The map shared by Ookla shows the green dots rising slowly from January to July and then getting a sudden boost in August and September. This is also the period when Reliance Jio’s last offer was slowly being increased to more smartphones. In September it went live on all 4G enabled devices.

    The month of September has also seen a abrupt jump in the number of Reliance Jio 4G users testing out speeds on the network, according to other data chart from Ookla. The data chart shows tests borne out by Jio 4G users are much higher than those borne out by other network users in India.

    However, Speed test’s data also says that Reliance Jio’s mean average speeds have been avoid since it got more users on board. According to the data, speeds for “4G capable phones actually decreased 23% month-over-month from 11.31 Mbps to 8.77 Mbps, continuing a downward trend for 2016.” The report also include that Reliance Jio’s claims of 135Mbps as average speed the board is still a dream, and that even the “top 10% of tests averaged out at 17.77 Mbps in September.” Note that this average is for the top 10 percent of the millions of tests that have been carried.

    What is a 4G band?

    A band is a network frequency at which a service provider offers connection. Airtel offers 4G on Band 40 (2300MHz), Vodafone offers 4G on Band 5 (850Mhz). Reliance Jio offers 4G on Band 3, Band 5, and Band 40.While it may have be the fastest network (how to increase jio speed)in terms of downloads, Reliance Jio lags beyond the binding when it comes to average 4G upload speeds.

    Before we move along, it is important to know the various in these three bands and how they work.

    It’s all about numbers:

    Super coverage: Band 5 > Band 3 > Band 40.

    Best speed: Band 40 > Band 3 > Band 5

    This means you will get best connection in the Band 5 but the speed will not be as best. And if you are on Band 40, you will get great speed but coverage will be poor.

    So to get super Jio speed, you need to control the LTE band. Now, here is what you can do (at your own risk).

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    Method 1: Lock the 4G network to band 40

    To get best coverage you do not need to do anything, your phone will naturally switch to the band that offers better coverage.

    To increase speed follow these steps:

    — Dial ” *#*#4636#*#*”

    — Select phone information

    — choose “Set preferred network type”

    — Select LTE Only

    For Qualcomm processor

    — Install Shortcut Master (Lite) app from Play Store.

    — Menu > Search

    — Type “Service Menu” or “Engineering Mode” and search

    — Open if found and access to change LTE bands

    For MediaTek processor

    — Install MTK Engineering Mode

    — Run app

    — Select ‘MTK Settings’

    — choose ‘BandMode’

    — Select SIM slot where you have put your Jio SIM

    — touch ‘LTE mode’

    — choose band 40 for best speed or band 5 for best coverage

    — Save settings & reboot mobile to activate changes.


    These method may or may not work even if you have smart phones with these processors. We suggest you to try these on your own danger.

    But there is a catch and that is why you should not try bound your band.

    While it is understandable to ambition 4G speed as high as 50Mbps, the above methods may or may not work. The chances are it won’t. More importantly, we suggest you do not shot to lock your LTE band.

    As we said earlier, every phone, smart phone is built with capabilities to find the right connection for you, a band so to say.

    Reliance Jio is the only 4G network that supports three LTE bands for best coverage and best speed.

    So if you lock the LTE network at band 40 your phone will not be able to switch to a network band with better coverage. The band 40 will probably give you super speed, but it will also be more inconsistent and your network may bit when you change location.

    Similarly if you lock the network to band 3 or band 5, you may get good coverage but speed may not be that good. Even if band 40 is available in your current location your phone will stay at band 3 or band 5, as locked.

    Yes, you have the option of going through the whole process again and change the band, but then if your phone is able of doing that naturally why should you take the pain.

    That said, there are some more tricks you can use.

    Method 2: Change APN settings

    You can also increase speed of your Jio internet by changing the APN settings. But before changing it we suggest you to note down the current settings.

    Change the APN Settings as shown below.

    — Name – RJio

    — APN – jionet

    — APN Type – Default

    — Proxy – No changes

    — Port – No changes

    — Username – No changes

    — Password – No changes

    — Server –

    — MMSC – No changes

    — MMS proxy – No changes

    — MMS port – No changes

    — MCC – 405

    — MNC – 857 or 863 or 874

    — Authentication type – No changes

    — APN Protocol – Ipv4/Ipv6

    Download Snap VPN from Play Store

    After changing the APN settings, download Snap VPN app from the Google Play Store. Once you have installed the app connect to Singapore or France server. This should improve your downloading speed but not browsing speed.

    Note: We suggest you to try these methods to increase your 4G speed at your own risk. India Today will not responsible if these methods cause temporary or permanent issue with your phone after the changes. Although, if there is indeed some problem with your phone after trying these methods, we recommend you factory reset the device.

    How to Get Maximum Speed in Downloading Jio 4G Trick

    Through this tricks you will get the maximum downloading speed because the speed based on the location, network etc not depend upon the settings but these setting help you to get the maximum download and surfing speed.I provide the step to step guide about to increase the Jio 4G Internet speed below.All tricks are very easy and safe to do.All tricks you can avail on your smartphone whether it is rooted or not.So lets do the trick to Increase the download speed of your Jio 4G sim.

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    how to increase jio speed :After so much time of launching the Jio 4G service almost every person enjoy Jio services all over India but some people are not getting as good speed compare to others and some are not even getting 2G speed on Jio 4G service.So in this article i will show you all the tricks to increase your Jio 4G download speed upto 8Mbps.

    Downloading speed matter for every person those are using Internet so in this trick i will tell you about how to increase the download speed.Below i provide the almost all possible tricks through you will easily increase your downloading speed.Jio is giving the Free Services for all the customer like Free calling, Free Internet, Free Messages etc till 31st March 2017.However some person said the Jio 4G service is for 1 Year but it is now true you will enjoy these benefits till 31st March 2017.

    How to Get Maximum Speed in Downloading Jio 4G Trick

    Through this tricks you will get the maximum downloading speed because the speed based on the location, network etc not depend upon the settings but these setting help you to get the maximum download and surfing speed.I provide the step to step guide about to increase the Jio 4G Internet speed below.All tricks are very easy and safe to do.All tricks you can avail on your smartphone whether it is rooted or not.So lets do the trick to Increase the download speed of your Jio 4G sim.Increase Jio Internet Speed from below.

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    Find Maximum Jio 4G Internet Speed in your city

    The first and main method is to check the Jio 4G speed (how to increase jio speed)in your area, So that you will see how much maximum speed you can avail at your origin.Because the speed is divided based on the city.In some city’s Internet speed were 512Mbps while in some city’s the maximum speed is 8Mbps.So first check the speed from below
    1.You have to Install Speed Meter Lite App from Playstore – Download
    2.Connect your mobile network with Band 40.
    3.Download any file with Uc browser and check the maximum speed you get.
    4.If you are not getting the high speed than check later.

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    If you are searching for-increase jio downloading speed on pc,increase jio speed using vpn, increase jio net speed, jio internet trick, reliance jio speed hack. I am going to tell you about jio sim tweak using which you can increase jio downloading speed.
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    •Now Open the software you downloaded
    •Go to Stimulated Country-> and select region Germany
    •You will now see a screen like this:

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    Just click on the button in the image shown. And a connection is now established using cyber ghost.
    •Now you are successfully connected. ◦You can now observe your internet speed upto 40MBPS.

    For iPhone users

    For seamless 4G speed upto 27 Mbps, use this settings
    1.Go to settings
    2.Select on Mobile data
    3.Touch on mobile data options
    4.Tap on Mobile date network
    5.In APN field enter jionet (all small letters)
    6.Set server to Jio 4G LTE Network
    7.Depending upon your device, MNC value would vary. Let it be what ever it is.
    8.Change authentication type to None
    9.APN type should be default,xcap. I’d suggest to double check this as this is the most important setting that will be recognized by the JIO server and hence providing the latest speeds and uninterrupted services.
    10.APN protocol & APN roaming protocol should be IPv4.
    11.Bearer should be set to LTE only and nothing else.
    12.MVNO type should be SPN.
    13.MVNO value should be Jio 4G. That’s capital J & G and rest small letters.
    14.Tap on save, restart your device and once it’s done. You’re good to go with the seamless speed that was promised by Reliance Jio.

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    28Jul17……The following is a real good example of the legacy of Frank Sinatra within his family………..carpetbaggers ALL and nothing but greed … just like the ‘ ol schidt-for-brains Frank himself:….
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    As of late Thursday morning, Nancy Sinatra and Tina Sinatra were not on the invitation list to a private reception at Sunnylands in Rancho Mirage for close friends and family members grieving the loss of Sinatra’s wife, Barbara, said John Thoresen, director of the Sinatra-led Barbara Sinatra Children’s Center. Her funeral at Sacred Heart Catholic Church in Palm Desert is open to the public.

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    In a subsequent book about her father, Frank Sinatra: An American Legend, Nancy Sinatra Jr. wrote that she had resolved by January 1977 that her father’s affection for Barbara “was genuine and would continue forever.” But she said Frank and Barbara’s decision to annul Sinatra’s marriage to Nancy Sr. so they could marry in a Catholic ceremony “made things more difficult.”

    “I found the concept of annulment shocking,” Nancy Jr. wrote, “and my brother (the late Frank Jr.), sister and I were concerned about how it would affect our mother.”

    A year before Frank Sinatra’s 1998 death in Beverly Hills, the Wall Street Journal reported that Barbara and her step-kids had become “further enmeshed in a behind-the-scenes battle over his financial holdings, estimated to be worth at least $200 million.”

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    Frank and Barbara celebrated their 20th anniversary in 1996 by renewing their wedding vows, and Tina and Nancy declined to attend.

    When Sinatra died in 1998, Barbara was by his side at Cedars Sinai Medical Center, but Tina had to learn of her father’s demise from a doctor’s telephone call, shortly after watching the final episode of Seinfeld. In 2000, she wrote a memoir, titled My Father’s Daughter, in which she fumed, “Barbara could have called us — she could have called! But she did not call.”

    The tome let her vent her hostility. She called her father’s final marriage “a Faustian bargain” that almost fell apart several times. It expressed her fear that “Barbara was trying to erase Sinatra’s children from his life,” as the publisher wrote on the book flap.

    But, two years after her father’s death, Tina concluded her book by writing, “Everything has washed away but our love.”

    The Sinatras’ family friend Barbara Davis, widow of oil tycoon and 20th Century Fox studio owner Marvin Davis, believes the acrimony between Barbara and the “kids” was not uncommon among blended families.

    “I have seen in marriages where there’s two or three or four different marriages, the children whose dad left for another woman, they hate her!” said Davis. “They always think he’s coming back. It’s human nature. I don’t care who the person is. I’ve just seen it with everybody.

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