Conspiracy Theories

Prank on ‘chemtrail’ conspiracists proves they’ll believe anything they see on the internet

Anyone who’s had an Internet connection for the last decade has most likely heard of the “chemtrails” conspiracy theory: the notion that the white vapor you see trailing planes at high altitudes is not simply condensation, but a sinister mix of chemicals that the government uses to crop dust the population for mind control purposes, weather manipulation, etc.

The evidence for this is absolutely zero, but the number of people who subscribe to and disseminate this unique brand of paranoia (maybe even more incoherent than 9/11 trutherism) is shockingly high — and growing.

The growth of this particular form of mass misinformation, and conspiracy theories in general, has expanded along with the growth of the Internet. That’s what makes a certain ‘social experiment’ by a fellow from the U.K. so interesting.

As reported in 2014 by VICE, Chris Bovey—a 41-year-old from Devon, England, duped chemtrail conspiracists when his plane had to make an emergency landing and had to dump some fuel while in the air. Taking advantage of the fact that he had a window seat, Bovey was able to film the fuel being sprayed from the plane wing.

Touching down, he uploaded the video with a caption that suggested it could be evidence of chemtrails, hoping to mess with a couple of friends who he knew might fall for it. The video now has 1.1 million views, nearly 20,000 shares, and dozens of comments telling viewers to “wake the F up,” or accusing naysayers of being “stupid paid shills.”

Adding fuel to the fire, Bovey then made up a story about how he’d been detained at Heathrow Airport and was interrogated by authorities who confiscated his cellphone. Soon after, the conspiracy site ran his story as video proof for chemtrails.

Speaking to VICE, editor of the anti-conspiracy site Metabunk Mick West says that the proliferation of unverified “evidence” online is what allows conspiracy theories like chemtrails to spread like termites.

“People share things that look interesting without really looking into them, and they take the word of whoever’s posting it that it’s a real thing,” West said. “I knew from the start that [Bovey’s video] was some kind of hoax, but people want to have their worldview confirmed, so when they see something that seems to fit their worldview they jump on it.”

Bovey was then invited onto a radio show hosted by Richie Allen, a friend of David Icke — a man who claims we’re being ruled by a group of lizard creatures disguised as world leaders. On the air, Chris revealed that his video was actually a hoax, after which an argument with the host about the validity of the chemtrails ensued. After the Interview, Bovey has hit with a stream of “vulgar abuse” from conspiracy theorists attacking his Facebook page.

You can read VICE’s interview with Bovey about the aftermath here.

Watch Bovey’s video below:

[This article was been updated on 4/27/17 for content] Featured image via Wikipedia



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    A FISH OUT OF ORDER (@Gauldar)

    October 14, 2014 at 1:31 am

    5 to 10 years from now, chemtrail conspiracy theorists will still regard this video as “evidence”.

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    Patrick Clancy

    October 14, 2014 at 2:16 am

    ” (maybe even more incoherent than 9/11 trutherism) ”

    Deadstate – destroying their credibility with each smug claim that 911 truth should be ridiculed. Total fail and a clear indication that DS is controlled by the same forces that directs CNN, Fox News, and the rest of the organized corporate media. DS fools no one except fools.

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    October 14, 2014 at 4:09 am

    I think some people have either over active imaginations, paranoid, persecution complex or combination with a bit of mass hysteria. The internet makes it much easier to spread misinformation and rumors that suddenly turn into so called facts. I can’t think of anything legal that would stop this from spreading so I just have another cup of tea and smile at the blithering drooling idiots.

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    James Randi

    October 14, 2014 at 5:55 am

    Worse, they will use this as proof of how far rationalists will reach to discredit their theories…

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    October 14, 2014 at 6:04 am

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    Debby Berg

    October 14, 2014 at 12:23 pm

    Oh man this is CLASSIC!! My ex-boss should be shitting quarters right now!!

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    Debby Berg

    October 14, 2014 at 12:24 pm

    My old boss is a collector of conspiracy theories, this is right up his alley

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    October 14, 2014 at 2:49 pm

    In fairness, it’s entirely possible that the “emergency landing” story was just a ruse to make it plausible to dump all that stuff in the air. I do not believe this specific conspiracy theory, at all, it’s ludicrous, they have better ways to spread mind control agents.

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    Nodda Nothen

    October 14, 2014 at 3:33 pm

    Chemtrails. a theory that comes not from people believing the government is out to cull the population with aerosols, it was born from a submitted idea to use reflective particulars that would float in the upper atmosphere and reflect sunlight. This was an idea for stemming the tide of climate change. Then all it takes is for the wackos to take it to the next level and we end up with propaganda pages like Deadstate using it to discredit 911 Truth. Standard procedure for corporate controlled media. Here is a short video from a real online 5th estate entity that has no wacko theories:

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    October 14, 2014 at 3:38 pm

    Imagine how many planes must drop their fuel each and every day. Is this simply to boost oil company profits?
    To be so simple minded. Snowden wasted his time and effort you learned nothing. Our government always tells us the truth.

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    October 14, 2014 at 4:15 pm

    Baby -> Bathwater.

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    Stuart Smith

    October 14, 2014 at 4:20 pm

    I always find it strange when people talk about the 9/11 truth thing as if it were some wack job conspiracy theory, when it’s so blatantly obvious and not even a little bit hidden that it boggles the mind. There was no investigation with even the pretense of independence, and then a few years later people in the media all just started talking about 9/11 truthers as if they were the equivalent of flat earthers or people who believe the moon landing was faked. And we’re supposed to see that and NOT think it’s a conspiracy?

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    October 14, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    So much in that is just factually wrong or misleading.

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    October 14, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    The UK government at least has admitted to experimenting on the general population by spraying chemicals… Not by passenger jet necessarily, but just because that guy made some stuff up, doesn’t mean we should all trust governments to have our best interests at heart…

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    October 14, 2014 at 6:36 pm

    Chemtrails are no more stupid than Global warming, The only difference is the DNC hasn’t figured out a way to use chemtrail paranoia to buy the votes of the ignorantly entitled masses.

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    October 14, 2014 at 7:08 pm

    You have heard of vapor trails right??? 99% of contrails are a natural reaction between jet engines and humidity in the atmosphere, not fuel dumping.
    Wow, you people are lazy. A simple google search would’ve explained what most of us already know.

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    October 14, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    After passengers, luggage, cargo, and the fuel the plane did need for the trip, how much capacity for chemtrail chemicals would there be? None.

    Plus, given the volume of air these chemicals are supposedly dispersed into, and that wind patterns will take most, if not all of these chemicals into the upper atmosphere. the potency of any chemical would have to be phenomenal, which means that the spills and contamination at every airport would be responsible for more contamination than aerial dispersal.

    Chemtrails has to be one of the STUPIDEST conspiracy theories. It is probably promoted by the lizard men to hide their real attack vectors.

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    Steve Hughes

    October 14, 2014 at 7:51 pm

    O.K. Anybody who has ever watched ANY WW2 video of the air war will tell you that Real Contrails from an engine exhaust lasts for maybe 15 seconds before disappearing completely. ChemTrails as they are known last for 6-12 HOURS and turn the sky into a Smoggy Morass. Before 10 years ago there was no such thing as looking up and seeing DOZENS of sick looking smears across the sky. In case any of you care, there are SATELLITE PHOTOGRAPHS of the continental U.S. literally crisscrossed with THOUSANDS of hundreds miles long trails that hide the blue sky. Really?? Hundreds of jets are dumping fuel at the same time?? Just for Shits and Grins, show me ONE SINGLE video of WW2 bombers and fighters dumping their fuel with it leaving a hundred mile long visible trail that dissippates into the atmosphere and stays there for say 8 hours. Any one want to have us believe that on ANY GIVEN DAY you looking up will see DOZENs of passenger jets dumping EXPENSIVE FUEL as they fly overhead? Really?? Airliners that are struggling to survive as a business are throwing aviation fuel away?? So far nothing in this article has answered any of these questions. Stay off the Fux News koolaid people.

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    Nodda Nothen

    October 14, 2014 at 8:02 pm

    Shameless self promoter, what a terrible legacy the “amazing Randi” has made for himself.

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    October 14, 2014 at 8:38 pm

    Why would the airlines dump fuel they have paid for just to increase oil company profits? There is no incentive in it for the airlines. High fuel costs give airlines more headaches in the form of customers unhappy with higher fares and lost revenue due to less people flying. Dumping fuel only increases expenses. Check out some aviation forums and actual pilots can explain that it is done for safety reasons. Flight plans factor in a lower landing weight due to so much fuel being used during the flight. An unplanned landing can leave the plane too heavy to land safely.

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    October 14, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    oh BULL-oney eric….. here is your explanation-

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    Brian McPhillips

    October 14, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    That’s easy …. first of all, “die” writing of this nonsense is littered with errors. Second, there isn’t really an invention here … it’s just a method of trying to curb warming of the earth by using methods where all the theoretical work has been done.
    I saw nothing … nada ….. about the actual use of any named chemical to add to airplane fuel.

    You, ericplotts, are freakin’ retahded!

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    Adam Parfrey

    October 14, 2014 at 11:25 pm

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    Nodda Nothen

    October 15, 2014 at 12:43 am

    ndjnn, you make a comment that is devoid of any indication to who or what you are replying or responding to. This demonstrates what about how much thought you put into what you are trying to say, how you are trying to say it, and to who you are wanting to say it to? What is factually wrong and or misleading?

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    October 15, 2014 at 1:04 am

    Just because one troll video is debunked as false doesn’t mean that all the other millions of documented evidence is false or untrue!

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    October 15, 2014 at 2:59 am

    Well I am over 50 and saw vapor trails that lasted for way more than 10 minutes when I was a kid! So I call be. Plus seen lots of ww2 photos and film with vapour trails all over the place. Oh and watch Lawrence of Arabia and see the vapour trails from the early 60s

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    David James

    October 15, 2014 at 3:00 am

    Explain clouds hanging around…then do some actual research instead of listening to BS from internet scientists/chemists/physicists flunky. There is actually a lot of science and crap like variables: altitude, temperatures, pressure, humidity, engine, fuel, etc….but I guess that shouldn’t stand in the way of conspiracies…

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    October 15, 2014 at 3:15 am

    Well perhaps this talk given at the United Nations might explain chemtrails:

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    October 15, 2014 at 3:56 am

    Ugh, people are so gullible it is truly SICKENING!! Here we go 1. I’ve NEVER seen a “chemtrail” lmao dumped from a plane last 12hrs, or 6hrs, or even 60 minutes for that matter, planes in ww2 DID NOT run on the same petro as today, nor did they carry as much fuel. 2. Planes in ww2 didnt carry a HUGE payload of petro like commercial passenger jets, so why would they even have to dump?? Hell usually they had just enough fuel for the op and return flight. Now for the NEW WORLD ORDER theorists, again LMMFAO. So I wonder if these super rich people that rule the entire world are going to round us up and put us in prison camps, how will they continue to make money? Or how are they gonna keep their companies running? Who will serve them dinner? What im saying is you numb skulls if we are all in camps dont you think they would be shooting themselves in their own feet??? It just doesn’t make any sense, actually think about shit before you say it, cuz that shit sounds DUMB AS FU@K!!! I just can’t believe GROWN ASS people really think this way, unimaginable…

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    October 15, 2014 at 4:03 am

    I do not believe this specific conspiracy theory, at all,
    Which ones do you believe? 🙂

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    David James

    October 15, 2014 at 5:11 am

    I’m 51 and grew up in the DFW area (Carswell AFB used to be). I saw many, many CONTRAILS as a kid that were in the sky for a long, long time….oh, maybe they were dropping chemicals on us back then too??? LOL….SMH at some of these people.

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    Violet Sky

    October 15, 2014 at 5:40 am

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    Violet Sky

    October 15, 2014 at 5:43 am

    NASA admits too, in this video…but the scientist on this recording attempts to assure the woman who called that they are not doing anything that would harm the public.

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    Lawrence Basford

    October 15, 2014 at 9:06 am

    There are several problems with a conspiratorial view that don’t fit with what we know about power structures. First, it assumes that a small handful of wealthy and highly educated people somehow develop an extreme psychological desire for power that leads them to do things that don’t fit with the roles they seem to have. For example, that rich capitalists are no longer out to make a profit, but to create a one-world government. Or that elected officials are trying to get the constitution suspended so they can assume dictatorial powers. These kinds of claims go back many decades now, and it is always said that it is really going to happen this time, but it never does. Since these claims have proved wrong dozens of times by now, it makes more sense to assume that leaders act for their usual reasons, such as profit-seeking motives and institutionalized roles as elected officials. Of course they want to make as much money as they can, and be elected by huge margins every time, and that can lead them to do many unsavory things, but nothing in the ballpark of creating a one-world government or suspending the constitution.–G. William Bomhoff “There Are No Conspiracies”

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    Henk Van Helmond

    October 15, 2014 at 9:46 am

    Why these MORONS are stupid is because you cannot add a water based chemical to fuel, the plane would fall out of the sky, and even if you could, if it goes into the engine, super hot temperatures would nullify it. I’d like to shake this guys hand… and call him a very smart person. I’d love to friend him on FB as I often end up arguing with stupid moronic conspiracy theorists.

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    October 15, 2014 at 12:12 pm

    The governments disinformation campaign seems to be working really well! If you can’t see what they’re up to, it’s because you don’t want to. For many it’s just too icky and scary to admit. It’s easier just to turn on Faux News or CiaNN and turn off your mind. Well, we get the world we deserve. The truth about ‘better living’ through geo-engineering will someday come to light, and people will have to reluctantly admit that the tinfoil hat wearing nutcases were right. Personally, I never saw this video and would have known immediately that it was fuel being dumped. But I’ve seen other evidence that is irrefutable. Too bad I can’t really do anything to stop it.

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    October 15, 2014 at 2:39 pm

    Even believing that using air-dispersed particulates to control atmospheric thermodynamics is an applicable possibility, much less a “secret” one.. is completely inane on it’s own.. Sure, the “mind-control” faction is slightly more whacko.. but that’s like saying that Hitler was good, because Stalin was worse.

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    Jt Alwin

    October 15, 2014 at 2:44 pm

    You know, it’s time to quit blaming others for your utter stupidity. There’s something called science that you obviously haven’t figured out, and I hate to tell you, that’s no one’s fault but your own.

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    Kevin H.

    October 15, 2014 at 6:14 pm

    While there is no doubt that someone, somewhere is looking for a way to regulate the heat in the atmosphere, it’s still a very unlikely proposition.. If you believe it can/will/or is being done by dispersing particulates in the atmosphere with airplanes… you are ignoring science, facts, common sense, and likely personal hygiene.. (lol.. sorry..Just kidding about the hygiene.. unfair joke, but too easy.. and given my experience “debating” conspiracy theorists.. somewhat warranted)
    By the way, this belief isn’t a result of watching corporate news, or parroting a meme you read on facebook once.. It is based in science, logistics, and common sense.

    You don’t have to get into full blown complexity theory to show that a non-linear dynamical system like the weather is virtually impossible to control. Even in a purely deterministic state the sensitive dependence on initial conditions makes it virtually impossible to have any idea how an action will affect the system in anything greater than t+1 time steps.
    You just can’t intervene in a system like the weather and have any semblance of control. I’d recommend spending some time with a simple system like the Lorenz Equations, which were designed to model weather, to get a feel for how difficult it is to change the weather even if you were to occlude the sky over a huge part of the planet.

    You simply can’t change the climate by trying to cool the planet with air-dispersed particulates. You are trapping heat in a closed thermodynamic cycle when you occlude the sun. Any light reflected, no matter the albedo of the cloud cover, would be offset by heat trapped in the lower levels of the atmosphere during that time. An additionally the energy required to loft all these chemicals would result in enough emissions to complete eradicate any change.
    Trails from jets are condensate. You can look at the weather forecast and tell when they will occur due to upper level temps and humidity. It isn’t a conspiracy, it is just basic physics.

    You can’t simply ignore things like facts, and refute them with non-scientific conjecture.. Doing this, while calling everyone else “shills” or “sheeple” is the HEIGHT of Irony, hypocrisy and plain ignorance.

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    October 15, 2014 at 6:33 pm

    I would like you to explain to ME why you never bothered to punch in a search on your keyboard there in front of you to get a possible answer for this? That is what needs explaining you absolute tool.

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    October 15, 2014 at 6:34 pm

    NO it is not entirely possible.

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    Nodda Nothen

    October 15, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    Lawrence, you are over the top in your willful self delusion. The idea that men of wealth and power, for the sake of power, has not been a constant in the totality of human history, is nothing short of cowardice in how you lie to yourself giving up on your share of responsibility to struggle to protect our freedoms – and thus your own freedoms.

    Grow up, stop lying to yourself. Using examples of bizarre theories by paranoid people as an excuse to overlook the many reasonable facts about the loss of our freedoms by a more and more power grabbing super rich minority, is cowardice on your part. There are few who put their freedoms on the line to fight back, the least you can do is give them the time of day to hear their stories and respect what they do for you and all of us.

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    October 15, 2014 at 7:23 pm

    These chemtrails conspiracy theorist are technically right. At least on the weather control part. They use a method called cloud seeding to try and make moisture accumulate in a drought struck area

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    October 15, 2014 at 8:17 pm

    0 proof they existed? Really? What about the reflective particles they used for haarp? The purpose being that if haarp is for communications you’ll get better skip with reflective stuff in the atmosphere.
    Or how about the British government admitting that they did it to run experiments on people between 1940 and 1979.
    Yes there are some crazy conspiracy theorists that think every contrail and fuel dump is a chemtrail from the lizard people for mind control. This article seems to want to paint all who believe in chemtrails as such people.
    But there is proof that they did and do exist. Governments and universities have admitted to using them to spread “harmless” colds to figure out how to handle a real biological attack to dumping iron in the ocean to putting reflective particles in the atmosphere to reflect the sun or help communications. What are the effects on people when those particles fall? And considering that the last know government experimentation was during the Gulf War (2 August 1990 – 28 February 1991), I remain skeptical, but not insanely so, about what all they are dumping in out atmosphere.

    This article is a farce saying there is 0 proof.

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    Kevin H.

    October 15, 2014 at 9:18 pm

    Yes. Scientist have tried cloud seeding for years, with very little luck, but they continue to work on the theory. However, it is in no way connected to “chemtrails”, nor is it a secret. So, no.. the chemtrail conspiracy theorists are not right.

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    Kevin H.

    October 15, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    There is a documented history of chemical experimentation (mostly pre-Vietnam War), and it is a scary prospect.. However, none of your examples have anything to do with so-called “chemtrails”, a natural, and predictable weather phenomenon.. I don’t have the time to get into HAARP’s technology of ionospheric radiation experiments, but there is good info:here:
    But again.. Not chemtrails.. and not a secret. Contrails are clouds of frozen water. period.. So, yes, there is zero proof that they are anything else.

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    October 15, 2014 at 10:40 pm

    Umm….A chemical released in the atmosphere via a plane or balloon would be a chemtrail. Harvard University is looking into it to reflect sunlight to combat global warming.
    This article suggests that there is and never was such thing as a chemtrail which is an outright lie.
    I know that 99.99% of what is seen in the sky is only a contrail.
    I don’t have a problem with debunking most of the chemtrail crap because a lot of people get carried away with it. But to say you must either believe they never existed or you are a crazy nut job is not right either. There are such things as chemtrails. Not as prevalent as some think and there to reflect something. Alot of people also confuse contrails for chemtrails. And they are definitely not there for mind control from the lizard people. Not everything is a conspiracy

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    October 16, 2014 at 1:03 am

    Look up at the sky, look at your windows, why are chemtrails only seen over cities or areas with large populations. How can it be a theory? The evidence is infront of you!

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    October 16, 2014 at 1:49 am

    Actually we know they spray because we can see them with our own eyes. All you have to do is look up every now and then. Contrails don’t happen on warm days or when planes are flying at lower altitudes. I’m not sure of this however as a lifelong skywatcher, I used to see contrails only a few times per winter and on very cold days, but now they are constantly appearing in the skies in all seasons.

    And why doesn’t the government dispell our concerns about this? The government is always so remote and secretive. They want to know everything about us but we get to know nothing about them, nor do we even get to know what they know about us! It has to be the other way around, or it’s supposed to be if we advertise ourselves as a democracy.

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    October 16, 2014 at 1:58 am

    Meant to add, I do feel that chemtrails are real otherwise why wouldn’t the government tell us it’s not true? However this just makes us better at detecting those who tell the truth and to check all angles before accepting someone’s testimony.

    People on this thread scoff at “conspiracy theorists” as being paranoid. Three buildings falling on their footprint perfectly on 9/11 doesn’t seem to make them suspicious. Let me remind them that the media doesn’t check things out either. The story about ISIS beheading journalists has never been verified, yet what people see on the television they think it’s verified. Same goes for ebola. One death from ebola and we’re already upgrading the hospitals yet the media doesn’t pay attention to malaria which is by far a greater killer. They leave important facts out which puts things out of perspective such as beheadings happening on a regular basis in Saudi Arabia.But the agenda is to go into Syria so they concocted another pantomime for the masses. The illusion has to go on for them because the minute people “get it” poof! The gig is up. And when it’s up, there ain’t no unlearnin’ it!

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    Mimi Louiso

    October 16, 2014 at 10:08 am

    My husband used to fly, and still people argued with me. I asked if they took 9th grade science?

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    October 16, 2014 at 4:11 pm

    someone should tell the UNITED NATIONS that chemtrails arent real because they sure are discussing them like theyre real right here

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    James Randi

    October 16, 2014 at 4:39 pm

    Think: how many persons would have to be part of such a scheme…? First, all security agencies that are involved in air safety, then Homeland Security — who tend to keep strange folks from having access to fuel tanks, then all the myriad of other agencies who don’t allow the introduction of fuel additives, as well as those who would have to manufacture, store, transport, and introduce into heavily guarded aircraft the active substance — secretly, and flight crews who are ready and willing to co-operate in the timing and the plan…

    Get real.

    The world is far from safe, but the chemtrails idea is a particularly juvenile notion.

    James Randi.

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    October 17, 2014 at 4:34 am

    Maybe because that’s where you build airports, near cities/areas with large populations? Just sayin’…

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    Erik Burns

    October 17, 2014 at 11:26 am

    I giggle at the chemtrail theory every time I hear it. First off, with this video, I dint know if it was an emergency landing or not, but a plane has a max takeoff weight and a max landing weight. Some planes their takeoff weight id equal to their landing weight so no problem. Other aircraft has a less max landing weight than their takeoff weight. The engineers count on fuel burn to lessen the weight when they design them. ( You get lighter the longer you fly) If they have to turn back after takeoff some planes do a “fuel dump” to lighten them, and what you see in the video is a fuel dump. Now as far as the trails go. A jet engine sucks in cool humid air, as its combusted, the water vapor turns to steam and shoots out the back then freezes into crystals in the cold air behind the plane leaving a trail. On low humidity days the trails dissipate fast, on humid days, they hang around and are blown by the wind. At the altitudes required to form the trails, any chemical would evaporate and be blown off target before reaching the ground. That is why crop dusters fly 3 feet over their crops. As a Pilot, I would never knowingly spray chemicals on people, I would quit flying if that was the case.

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    October 17, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    I live in a small town and I see contrails every day.

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    October 17, 2014 at 10:50 pm

    If you mean capital as a force, just write it out. If not, you’re being incoherent 😉

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    jude彡 (@nightfallsnet)

    October 18, 2014 at 1:39 am

    “CHEMTRAILS” are no longer a conspiracy theory.. Organizations have very casually addmitted to be doing it..

    ???? is nobody aware of that

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    Geoff Chisholm

    October 18, 2014 at 3:07 pm

    “O.K. Anybody who has ever watched ANY WW2 video of the air war will tell you that Real Contrails from an engine exhaust lasts for maybe 15 seconds before disappearing completely. ”

    This is not so. Contrails were a constant problem as they were a great way for the Luftwaffe to spot a bomber formation, as well as hiding the bombing site from any formations that might be behind them.

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    Smith Avionics

    October 20, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    Triethylaluminum is in jet fuels
    since people here seem to sound like educated jet mechanics or talk as if they buy airline items.
    Has no one here worked recently on any types of jets or any size jets?

    Some people know recent years, that Aluminum from the sky is why “Monsanto”, had a patent to protect its newer form of “GMO aluminum resistant seeds” made, and they are well known for many health problems caused by GMO foods, all made from GMO seeds to grow genetically engineered “look alike natural untainted foods”.
    And all unlabeled in 80% of all USA foods, are GMOs and all have been made to grow pesticides growing inside the foods which is known to slow the stomach flora to stop digestion correctly, lowering our thinking, reacting, lowing the immune system, allowing many illnesses easier to seem like all the “man made medical belief system” falls into place.
    Just as “many medial people are legally obligated to mislead the public being the FDA And international medical places control the information and stock market investors”. And for us to go along with more belief systems..

    Now recently approved to be sprayed from the air is something called “2,4-D agent orange” causing baby deformities in countries allowed to grow GMOs related with DOW chemical also recently approved, is on some of our foods.

    Triethylaluminum in recent years has been a part of the jet fuel options for various reasons and does leave a lot of after trails.

    Some trails are suppose to help cover sun shine to help lower the temperatures of oceans and lower the collective air current from the ocean as commonly known to help the arctic circle stop melting and since has grown.

    This along with HAARP, being in part a government weapon and part weather control, which is now now in mobile versions, has been also very controversial since recent years as many awareness pages are related subjects.

    Especially since all the 80% foods in the USA are GMOs and spayed various ways and are all unlabeled,
    they are now in the process as half a dozen states at this time, do now, or soon will have “GMOs simply labeled”, as groups such as “Millions Against Monsanto” and similar problems are addressed and issues related to our foods, the sky, food awareness and much related health qualities.
    We hope you can have a look to see related news of “Monsanto’ since they have been involved with patents of Aluminum protection of seeds protected from the air. Thank you for reading.

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    Jakub Zohanovie

    October 21, 2014 at 4:08 pm

    only stupid americans could only believe in these shits

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    Mark Stolzoff

    November 28, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    Go use the google machine to learn what a patent is, then slap yourself for asking a stupid question

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    December 13, 2014 at 3:21 am

    @ericplotts did you even actually read it? smh.

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    Al Hubbard

    December 13, 2014 at 11:56 am

    Jakob, that’s just stupid. For crying out loud contrails show up everywhere. Visit the woods of Maine or Montana and the skies are full of them during the day.

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    Asher Frost

    December 14, 2014 at 1:57 pm

    Nodda, that article is what I would call shameless self-promotion. To say nothing of the guy’s giant victim complex and paranoia, trying to turn a few posts on a public forum with thousands of registered members into some sort of “Vendetta” that James Randi has against one of the many bloggers who think they’ve uncovered some great truth?

    It’s funny at least, and the paranoia is at least better justified than the tenuous links he attempts to “Prove”

    Standard conspiracy theory drivel, you would think in the 20 years or so they’ve had online, they would evolve a bit.

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    Mark Stolzoff

    December 14, 2014 at 2:08 pm

    Look , on the internet! it’s someone writing a bunch of crap that doesn’t make any sense and pretending it’s true!

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    Mark Stolzoff

    December 14, 2014 at 2:15 pm

    those aren’t conspiracies, those things actually happened, That doesn’t mean chemtrails are real

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    Tyler Durden

    December 14, 2014 at 6:09 pm

    In much the same way that the anti-vaccination movement still quotes Richard Wakefield’s thoroughly debunked and fraudulent research 15 years later, sadly.

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    February 7, 2015 at 11:11 pm

    To those who believe this conspiracy theory. Who are they poisoning with this, and how do the conspirators avoid this on their own? Same questions apply to so called flouride conspiracy.

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    February 7, 2015 at 11:23 pm

    Yeah, the un has talked about it multiple times.

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    Karen Third

    February 7, 2015 at 11:35 pm

    Nothing to see here. A patent application that has nothing to do with topic. What do you see?

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    February 8, 2015 at 12:10 am

    Yes, of course. If we don’t believe your incredibly unrealistic, convoluted and retarded conspiracy theories, WE’RE the idiots.

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    February 8, 2015 at 12:26 am

    exactly, these people are retarded.

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    Jim Morrison

    February 8, 2015 at 1:27 am

    “..non-linear dynamical system..”, “..purely deterministic state..”, “sensitive dependence on initial conditions..” Dude, you’re talking to people who have NO understanding of basic scientific concepts & principles.. Do you REALLY expect them to know what a “..purely deterministic state..” is?? Any word longer than two syllabels confuses and frightens them..

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    Jim Morrison

    February 8, 2015 at 1:46 am

    “..non-linear dynamical system..”?? “..purely deterministic state..”?? “..sensitive dependence on initial conditions..”?? “..anything greater than t+1 time steps.”?? Dude, you’re talking to people who have NO understanding of basic scientific concepts & principles.. Do you REALLY expect them to know what a “purely deterministic state” is?? You’re gonna scare them with all those “scientist words” you keep using… 😉

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    Jim Morrison

    February 8, 2015 at 1:48 am

    P.S. Sorry about the double reply.. got some odd “mailer system error” the first time so I thought I should try again…

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    Benjamin Dover

    February 8, 2015 at 9:45 am

    Umm, no its not a conspiracy. You should seek medical attention. It might help. Undercore “might”. Still, it definitely cannot hurt.

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    Lex Zander

    February 8, 2015 at 5:28 pm

    Al Gore acted like this was common knowledge on Ellen Degeners. Is he nuts, too?

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    February 9, 2015 at 2:18 am

    It’s not nice to fool a conspiracy theorist, they might just send their lizard leader after you.

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    February 9, 2015 at 2:19 am

    If this video went world wide then I don’t think it’s just Americans that fall for this stuff.

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    February 9, 2015 at 2:53 am

    …and don’t forget that if you jam your tongue really, really tight into the muzzle of a gun the bullet won’t hurt you because the air will compress and stop it. Really! Go ahead and try that…

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    Bill Cumming

    February 9, 2015 at 3:03 am

    Unfortunately the effects of the Chem-trails were limited to a small sub-group of the population so it’s been discontinued.

    They found that the affected subjects started to loose cognitive abilities and increasing difficulty in distinguishing between fact and fantasy. A smaller offshoot of this group had a more severe reaction fading in to abject lunacy.

    This smaller group identified themselves as “Tea Party Patriots” where as the original sub-group used the term “GOP” as an identifier.

    ^__~ lol

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    P. Rallison

    February 9, 2015 at 3:57 am

    Why isn’t the plane descending if they had to release fuel to make an early landing?

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    MartinDean Sloan

    February 9, 2015 at 4:59 am

    The real story I remember from the early 90’s and has some legal precedence… Some of The Bush Family were convicted of Embezzling Billions during the Lincoln federal Savings and Loan… Later The GW Bush’s Family and Cheney were investigated for a Child pedephilia blackmail conspiracy… All were found to be true and yet nothing happened after the initial accusations and the findings delivered to the congressional investigating Committee… Why? Those in control of the investigation were the one’s being Blackmailed…..

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    Nodda Nothen

    February 9, 2015 at 5:06 am

    It is amazing that there are people out there who believe one man lying about evidence is proof that a theory is false. All science begins with theory. Using your logic Creationism is fact because Piltdown man hoax occurred back in 1912. Your contention that one man’s hoax makes all facts false is an excellent example of poor reasoning skills.

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    Nodda Nothen

    February 9, 2015 at 5:19 am

    It is always the people calling people idiots about a subject they demonstrate to nothing about, who are the actual idiots. Blithering? Yea, you are that too.

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    February 9, 2015 at 5:22 am

    Totally disagree. I’ll have coffee. Totally agree about blithering idiots.

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    Mark Stolzoff

    February 9, 2015 at 5:30 am

    if you know this, why not prove it?

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    Nodda Nothen

    February 9, 2015 at 5:38 am

    Your claim that common knowledge is a secret that can’t be kept, is circular logic as self fulfilling. An example is 911, nothing secret about it to be kept, just denials of reality. You see with your own eyes building seven fall at free fall rate. Denying Newton’s 2nd law of motion does not a secret make. In the exact same manner looking up at the sky full of man made linear cirrus clouds that blanket the sky and claiming this is just some how water vapor exhaust that normally persists in the sky, doesn’t make it true because you think what you are looking at to be man made would have to be a secret. It’s no secret – its right there in front of you and it doesn’t dissipate at a rate anywhere near the rate water vapor exhaust does.

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    Nodda Nothen

    February 9, 2015 at 6:02 am

    If I say an orange balloon is not a pumpkin, that all you have to do is pop it with a pin to verify my claim, and you reply, “if you know this, why don’t you prove it?” What should I think about your critical thinking skills?

    Some of us have been on this earth long enough to know how long exhaust trails from high flying passenger jet airplanes last in the sky. It is in the minutes, not hours. We have been seeing this for decades of our lives. Now we can see, on occasion, two planes fly over head that are the same altitude and same kind of plane produce two exhausts of their own, one that dissipates at the normal speed and one that lasts for the entire day. Do I have to prove this to you or anyone else? Or do you just have to prove it to yourself by going outside in early summer and early fall, look up in the sky under established flight paths of large planes, and make some simple observations?

    When the simple minded hear or read, “it is just water vapor” and then conclude people who argue it is not “just” water vapor, are paranoid nuts, these are always poorly equipped people for critical thinking.

    I don’t base my beliefs on what other people find to be popular, I base it on common sense. See if you have the attention span sufficient to read this section, about 6 paragraphs. And then consider your assuming manner again.

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    Daniel Obrien

    February 9, 2015 at 6:54 am

    well said

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    Stan Ubeki

    February 9, 2015 at 1:46 pm

    If some institution did indeed want to dose us with chemicals, why would they choose this grossly indirect and inefficient process? Putting it in the food and/or water supply, causing us to directly ingest it, would make a lot more sense. Consider the area of a major city, and what percentage of that area is actually a nostril or mouth. How much of the aerosol chemical would fall to waste on the ground? Volatile “medicinal” chemicals tend to be rather unstable. They likely wouldn’t survive for long in the environment. But that’s real science, as opposed to pseudo-science.

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    Nodda Nothen

    February 11, 2015 at 9:24 am

    Blithering idiot? Shows that you are not only uninformed, you’re the idiot calling those who know are informed names. How embarrassing for you.

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    February 24, 2015 at 5:50 pm

    who needs the lead hats? the people who are feeling skeptical of big corporate interests? or the people who run these ‘psuedo trolling fishnet studies of people who are feeling skeptical of big corporate interests? the article is ridiculing people who suspect a deceptive agenda at the same time that they are deceptively collecting data against said people. lol. what a perfect way to make the opposite point! lol.

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    February 25, 2015 at 6:20 am

    Science doesn’t begin with theory at all, and your contention that it does is an excellent example of the scientific illiteracy that leads you to believe that chemtrails might be a valid scientific investigation instead of anything but a fringe theory perpetuated by people who have no idea how atmosphere works.

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    February 25, 2015 at 6:28 am

    “Anybody who has ever watched ANY WW2 video of the air war will tell you that Real Contrails from an engine exhaust lasts for maybe 15 seconds before disappearing completely.”

    And anyone that’s actually flown an aircraft, such as myself, will tell you that simply watching video of it is no substitute for actually doing it, and that contrails persist for a variety of timeframes, depending on altitude and humidity.

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    May 5, 2015 at 2:14 pm

    Hahaha, oh my gosh, conspiraloons never give up, you could show them a picture of the dump you just left in the toilet bowl, and they’ll find ‘evidence’ for Illuminati stuff in it. 😀

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    May 6, 2015 at 7:11 am

    I want someone to prove that it isn’t real, rather someone proving it is .

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    Nodda Nothen

    May 8, 2015 at 4:12 am

    I love it when complete morons pose as being smarter than those make fun off. You can always tell when a person has zero education, they lick their finger and follow where ever the winds of public opinion is going. Frankie the skin is one such moron.

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    Steve Mushynsky

    June 1, 2015 at 9:29 pm

    Obviously, you did not listen to Gore in that interview clip where he said “these people are crazy”.

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    Steve Mushynsky

    June 1, 2015 at 9:33 pm

    “I want someone to prove that it isn’t real, rather someone proving it is”
    Demanding proof of a negative – You don’t see how that’s crazy?
    “I want proof that you didn’t ever beat up your wife”
    Good grief. Illness.

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    Steve Mushynsky

    June 1, 2015 at 9:36 pm

    “Your contention that one man’s hoax makes all facts false is an excellent example of poor reasoning skills”
    The man’s hoax prank was not intended to “prove” anything other than the incredible gullibility of chemtrail conspiracy fans. That he did exceedingly well.

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    Steve Mushynsky

    June 1, 2015 at 9:42 pm

    It must be terribly difficult to live in an alternate world, walls ever-shrinking about you as rationality pushes against you. It must be excruciatingly painful.

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    Steve Mushynsky

    June 1, 2015 at 10:06 pm

    Reading the scribbles of the conspiracy minded people here makes me sad about the future of mankind.

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    Nodda Nothen

    June 1, 2015 at 10:19 pm

    What part of solar radiation management is conspiracy? Do you suppose that reflective particles are theory? If you can’t understand the science, you call it “a conspiracy theory” and then pretend to be more informed. You’re a clown.

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    Kevin Hopper

    June 1, 2015 at 10:43 pm

    Ugh.. SRM is a THEORETICAL approach to climate engineering. The fact that this theory is debated as a viable option (and certainly NOT very welcomed or widely accepted as a viable option) and being researched by some.. DOES NOT mean that chemtrails are anything other than condensate reacting to atmospheric conditions.. The chemtrail conspiracy has been around for decades longer than any SRM research.. Again, there is TONS of good information out there about this subject, certainly more than wikipedia. Since you claim to “understand the science”, I ask that you to read all of the insurmountable evidence and logic presented as to what causes condensate to persist, and NOT JUST wikipedia, or conspiracy sites with established phony, doctored pictures, & loose and specious coincidences that “prove” what you clearly want to believe so badly.. If you had any intellectual honesty at all, you would research the subject wholly. Since you are such an astute scientific mind, it should be easy. If, after all that, you still believe that those lines in the sky (only on certain days..) are still secret chemicals with an agenda… then godspeed buddy.. I hope it works out for you.

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    June 2, 2015 at 12:45 am

    You are instructing the brain dead mon ami

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    June 2, 2015 at 12:50 am

    No, if you rant to the contrary without bothering to investigate the veritable mountain of evidence put forth globally on this very visible matter, and witnessed by hundreds of millions of people all over the world, or the pictorial evidence of the actual inside of the customized planes used in the well-known program, as well as insider whistle-blower accounts of it, etc, etc, etc, then you are a narcotized sheep imitating a thinking homo sapien. Back to your nap!

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    June 2, 2015 at 12:54 am

    A better way than the air everyone breathes? Like what? Putting fluoride in the water supply proved effective enough. Why do you suppose they wouldn’t use all approaches? In the name of “blanketing” and “shotgun approach”? Money being no object. These are psychopaths we are discussing!

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    June 2, 2015 at 12:56 am

    You are looking at the syndicated thought-form known as the Twilight Comfort Zone of critical thinking my friend. Sheep do not like leaving their comfort zone, or even being informed that another zone exists. No wolves out there, the shepherd is only around for companionship!

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    June 2, 2015 at 12:58 am

    You win the Unintelligible Reply Award for this post. BTW, they discovered the world is actually not flat, and the Universe does not revolve around it!

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    June 2, 2015 at 1:00 am

    Preaching to a Zombie choir amigo

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    Nodda Nothen

    June 2, 2015 at 1:02 am

    Kevin, where did I say any of this shit you’ve written here? The use of the word “conspiracy” is for who? It is for idiots. I don’t debate conspiracies. You do, and you do so while pretending people like me are debating it with you. I am not, nor have ever.

    The Wikipedia link is there to show that there is a field of science that explores the use of aerial distribution of materials for climate control. This is not me debating anything, it is me shutting down idiots like you who always bring everything back to “I am so smart because I can call people tin hat conspiracy theorists”. You are arguing with yourself.

    There is one more subject that applies here, “disinformation”. People following disinformation are not theorists, they are followers. Which you easily fall into.

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    June 2, 2015 at 1:05 am

    May I suggest you look in the nearest mirror for a moron. Your critical thinking skills must be measured in the negative numbers. The planes are customized, and there are pictures of the insides of them. (Oh right, any evidence counter to your argument is fake). The chemicals are not mixed in the fuel, fool. These are dedicated aircraft. As you are dedicated to your mind-set

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    Christ deuZige (Darth Papaaah)

    June 2, 2015 at 5:19 am

    I really don’t get this. Everybody up in the bastilles over a thing that everybody can see looking out their window while there are matters that really threatens the whole planet which never get any mention anywhere. Some times i wonder if the Inuit people have already begun their conquest of the minds and obedience of the human race for their alien handlers instead of in training. I haven’t seen any mention of either investigation into or action against the hidden alien outpost in the ice of the pole or into the treaty between the plyadists and the Inuit people. It is like no one even knows about it!

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    Pierce Nichols

    June 2, 2015 at 6:41 pm

    The length of time contrails perist is determined by conditions aloft (humidity, temperature, wind speed and direction). Contrails are just the water in the engine exhaust (approx 1.3 kg per kg of fuel burned) condensing and freezing into ice crystals. They persist about as long as cirrus clouds in similar conditions.

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    Nodda Nothen

    June 12, 2015 at 10:17 pm

    Christ, this is all alien to me.

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    February 26, 2016 at 9:42 am

    Airlines actually recycle cabin air in flight. This is done to avoid diverting incoming air from the jet engines to the cabin, which would INCREASE fuel consumption. Airlines are not in the business of wasting money and fuel, they are trying to make money. One reason so many people get sick if one idiot is sick and travelling.

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