Watch a Satanist school Fox’s Megyn Kelly on the Constitution

Speaking to the Satanic Temple’s Lucien Greaves about his organization’s decision not to erect a statue of Baphomet at the Oklahoma state capitol now that the state Supreme Court ordered the removal of a Ten Commandments monument, Fox News “Kelly File” host Megyn Kelly seemed a little baffled by the decision – along with the fact that she was talking to a real live Satanist.

Speaking to the Satanic Temple’s Lucien Greaves about his organization’s decision not to erect a statue of Baphomet at the Oklahoma state capitol now that the state Supreme Court ordered the removal of a Ten Commandments monument, Fox News “Kelly File” host Megyn Kelly seemed a little baffled by the decision – along with the fact that she was talking to a real live Satanist.

“So, is it like ‘Lucien’ as in ‘Lucifer’?” Kelly started out, referring to Greaves’ assumed name. “Is that why you’re called that?”

“Sure, as you like,” Greaves replied.

“No, as you like,” Kelly continued. “Is that your birth name?”

“No, it’s not,” answered Greaves — whose birth name is Doug Mesner.

“What are the deeply held beliefs that drew you to the Satanic Temple?” Kelly asked.

“We have seven tenets, you can look them up online,” Greaves replied. “But essentially, we view Satan as a symbolic embodiment of rebellion against tyranny.”

“So now you’re happy because you got the Ten Commandments taken down — but are you still pushing to have the goat with the horns put on the state capitol grounds?” Kelly asked.

“No,” he replied, “the whole point of the statue was to complement the monument and reaffirm that we live in a pluralistic nation that respects diversity and religious liberty.”

Later in the segment, Kelly pointed to a United States Supreme Court ruling in 2005 that a monument at the Texas state capitol was constitutional because “a reasonable observer, mindful of history, purpose, and context, would not conclude that this passive monument conveyed the message that the State endorsed religion.”

“That’s different because this case was about the Oklahoma state constitution,” Greaves shot back.

“It’s not that different,” Kelly claimed.

“It’s entirely different,” he replied. “Texas is a moot point. You’re talking about two different constitutions.”

Watch the entire exchange below via Fox News:

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    July 2, 2015 at 10:53 pm

    Hs eyes are sexier than hers too.

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    July 3, 2015 at 8:18 pm

    Could she have been any more patronizing to her first guest?

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    July 3, 2015 at 8:45 pm

    They laughed at the position of the Baphonet guy, but the state supreme court decided in his favor. Do we just ignore the court’s findings because we disagree with them? Can anybody do this? ‘Cause the courts make a lot of decisions I don’t agree with, but I follow them because I AM A CITIZEN. Meghan might want to look into this idea (with her 10 years of legal experience) before she tries to belittle the guy she’s interviewing.

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    July 3, 2015 at 9:34 pm

    ‘Do we just ignore the court’s findings because we disagree with them? Can anybody do this?’

    There is just SO much wrong with this statement. I mean, first of all, the “court,” whichever one is under discussion, cannot make a ruling a law. It’s a precedent by which other lesser courts are bound in the future. That said, Obama, our Dear Leader, picks and chooses which laws he observes and which he, as Dear Leader, commands our law enforcement personnel to ignore and/or not enforce.

    I’m old-school American. I don’t believe our elected officials get the benefit of being exempt or exempting others from our laws. But that point aside, at what point do judicial rulings stray so far from our founding principles do we react to protect our society?

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    Chris Kellimum

    July 3, 2015 at 10:55 pm

    Ernie, when you recognize that your religion belongs to you and those that follow it. When you realize one group should not use politics to inflict its dogma on all others. Everyone is not a Christian and Christians need to realize that not everyone wants to live your restrictive lives.

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    July 7, 2015 at 1:45 am

    I understand full well, Chris, to whom my religion – or lack thereof – belongs. The religion part of the question/issue/ruling was not what I was addressing.

    But perhaps you missed my point. The previous poster asked if we dare simply ignore the court’s finding. I find it rather odd that such a question would be seriously posed considering the unilateral nature of the current administration, laws/issues/rulings be damned. Our Dear Leader, after all, has “a phone and a pen” (and the highest office in the land) what need or concern does he have for the courts’ rulings or the legislature’s laws? Although I’m sure he’s ecstatic when they happen to agree with his agenda but I get the distinct feeling it’s not mandatory nor even necessary as long as we continue to let him and his lackeys continue to slide.

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