Mike Pence wants creationism taught to your kids in public schools

Donald Trump’s vice president is a radical Christian whose belief in “intelligent design” suggests he likely subscribes to the notion of a biblical young earth (around 6,000 years-old according to some, while others will allow for 10,000 years. Other believers in intelligent design will avoid the question of the earth/universe’s age altogether), and he wants this form of religious charlatanry taught in public schools.

Mike Pence‘s belief in a young earth isn’t proven without a doubt, but his rhetoric is designed to pander to those who do.

When he was confronted on the subject by MSNBC’s Chris Matthews back in 2009, Pence did everything he could to avoid acknowledging the scientific fact of evolution. It was a pathetic display of pandering to the anti-science religious voter.

But during his tenure as a U.S. Congressman, Pence wasn’t so evasive.

During an impassioned speech on the House floor in 2002, Pence regurgitated the ignorant ‘evolution is only a theory’ theme, and declared that “intelligent design” should be taught to children as a scientific alternative with equal weight.

“I believe that God created the known universe, the earth and everything in it, including man,” Pence said. “And I also believe that someday scientists will come to see that only the theory of intelligent design provides even a remotely rational explanation for the known universe.”

“I would simply and humbly ask, can we teach it as such and can we also consider teaching other theories of the origin of species?” Pence continued. “Like the theory that was believed in by every signer of the Declaration of Independence. Every signer of the Declaration of Independence believed that men and women were created and were endowed by that same Creator with certain unalienable rights. The Bible tells us that God created man in his own image, male and female. He created them.”

Writing for Patheos, Michael Stone points out that Pence’s false and misleading claim that creationism is a valid scientific alternative to the theory of evolution is a tactic widely used by evangelicals to undermine the way science is taught in the public school system.

Pence, like many advocates for creationism, is uninformed and uneducated as to what the term “theory” means in a scientific context. For the record, the scientific definition of “theory” is quite different from the everyday use of the word.

As the National Academy of Science notes, the “formal scientific definition of theory is quite different from the everyday meaning of the word. It refers to a comprehensive explanation of some aspect of nature that is supported by a vast body of evidence.

The idea that Pence wants creationism taught on equal footing with established science is a lie. “Intelligent design,” by definition, cannot exist without the presumption that the theory of evolution is false. Christians encroaching on the public sphere want to pull a cloak over the eyes of children, shielding them from the wide array of knowledge that proves the theory of evolution to be an expanding science that’s based in fact, and having Mike Pence in the White House is a priceless gift.

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    August 7, 2016 at 8:15 am

    What Mikey and his fellow theocrats don’t understand is that science is not merely a body of knowledge accumulated over the centuries, it is also the process through which this knowledge is attained. And so simply declaring that something is true because it says so in the Bible (or any other literary source) cannot be construed as science if that “fact” or “idea” was not the result of a valid, structured, self-critical scientific process.

    The realm of science — with its evidence-based testable theories, evolving species, relativistic measurements, and quantum phenomena — undermines the “absolutism” that is embraced by those whose view of the universe must conform to a literal interpretation of the Bible.

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    August 8, 2016 at 5:52 am

    Oh America, America, sometimes I don’t agree with the things that you do, but in no way do you deserve Trump and Pence.

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    Bill Stewart

    August 8, 2016 at 11:03 pm

    Republican politicians who deny evolution sometimes believe that themselves, and sometimes are just trying to attract the voter block of people who do. The oil and coal companies that are the party’s big corporate sponsors believe in evolution and science – that’s where their products come from, and how they find them, after all – but they’re willing to fund evolution deniers in return for promoting climate change denial, because that’s big money for them, and it’s easier to sell the science denialism they care about to people who already don’t believe in science.

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    douglas brule

    August 9, 2016 at 9:32 am

    Simple its call belief.But hold your horses I have a great respect for science and marvel at our universe,like that person said look above you and see the stars million light years away amazing!

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    J Lock

    August 9, 2016 at 10:14 pm

    Oh, please. There is no public school, in all Indiana, that teaches creationism.

    If you can’t make a proven point without accusatory name calling, the fingers point back at you …

    radical, charlatanry, rhetoric designed to pander, a pathetic display, false and misleading tactic to undermine, uninformed and uneducated, extremist

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    Rufino Cabonce

    November 13, 2016 at 7:40 pm

    The Big Bang theory speculates that 15 billion years ago there was a violent explosion in the galaxies that created all the planets including the sun, the moon and the earth, and then later on living beings evolved on earth. Darwin’s theory of evolution says that living beings or life originated from water because water produces mutants, The mutant turns into a tadpole, become a frog, become a fish, become a bird, become a monkey and finally it evolves into a man. What a stupid theory from these so-called scholars.
    These pin-headed scholars tried to explain that this marvelous Universe just randomly sets in the heavens without a Creator.
    Try to look at your watch; do you think that nobody invented it? How about the computer, can you convince yourself to believe that nobody has designed or invented it? If computers and watches are so complex in their mechanism, how much more is the whole Universe?
    The earth is circling the sun at an average of 93 million miles. It orbits the sun at a speed of 67,000 miles per hour making one revolution in 365 days 5 hours, 48 minutes and 45.51 second.
    While the Earth completes one rotation on its axis every 23 hours 56 minutes and 4.09 second, the Moon revolves around the Earth with the help of the Sun which cause high and low tides otherwise there would be no living things in the sea and the rivers. Just think about it that even second is counted. The Earth will not go faster even in a second or go slower in a second otherwise there will be tidal waves!
    The distance between the Earths from the Sun is approximately 93 million miles, just an exact distance that if the Earth goes just a little bit nearer to the Sun the Earth will burn. If it goes a little farther from the Sun the Earth will freeze.
    All the planets and the stars in this solar system are circling the Sun with precise speed with precise distance that’s the reason why it does not collide with each other. Do you think that nobody designed and created the Universe? Don’t tell me that nobody invented your wristwatch and that nobody created the computer?
    We are only talking about our solar system which is already mind boggling, then how much more if we think about the entire universe where billions of galaxies that are moving with light years in distance from each other, our human mind can never understand God’s creation.
    Our universe contains of galaxies; but it is only our planet earth which belongs to Milky Way Galaxy that has the supporting condition for life to exist. Is it by chance? Genesis 1:31, God saw all he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning – the sixth day.
    John 1:1-3, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through Him all things were made; without Him nothing was made that has been made.” (Verse 14), “The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us.”
    Who then became flesh? IT WAS JESUS. Jesus is the Word. So if we are going to translate these verses to make it clearer replacing the word, “Word” to a proper noun “Jesus” and replacing pronouns to proper noun it will read like this: “ In the beginning was JESUS, JESUS was with GOD, and JESUS was GOD. JESUS was with GOD in the beginning; through JESUS all things were made. Without JESUS nothing was made that has been made.”
    Forget grammatical correctness but even if it sounds monotonous, it is very clear that Jesus is God and the Creator of all things.
    (Colossians 1:15-17), “He is the image of the invisible God, the first born over all creation. For He created all things: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities, all things were created by Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.”
    Planets do not collide with each other because Jesus is the one who holds it together. With the vastness of the whole Universe only the earth is green and has life.
    The amazing thing is that the Creator himself came down from heaven to seek and to save us.
    (Luke 19:10) “For the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost.”
    (Acts 20:28), “Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you over seers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His blood.”
    (Hebrews9:22), “Without shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sin.”
    (1st Peter 1:18-19), “Knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers, but with precious blood as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ.”
    One of the reasons why God needed to become a man is to produce an unblemished blood to wash our sins. (Hebrews 9:22) God is a Spirit so to produce blood He must become flesh. Secondly: To pay for our sins in full. To redeem means to pay off. (Galatians 3:13)
    (Philippians 2:5-8) “Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus: Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to grasped, but made himself nothing taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness, and being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death, even death on a cross.”
    Most of us Christians just take for granted the gift of salvation that has been given to us. It is true that salvation of our soul is free, but it is not cheap. It cost the Lord God His life.
    (Philippians 2:8-11), “And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. Therefore also God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the Name which is above every Name, that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE SHOULD BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth, and under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.”
    People who say that there is no God and that no one created the Universe and people who believe in Jesus but don’t believe that He is God the day will come that they will confess with their tongue that Jesus is Lord, bowing their knees. But it would be under the earth that means in Hades or Hell. How can you confess Him Lord if you don’t believe that He is God?
    It is better to confess Him now while there is still a change rather than to confess Him later and to bow your knees while you are burning in hell and there is no other choice.
    It takes more faith to believe the Big Bang Theory and the Darwin’s Theory of evolution than to simply believe what the Bible says that Jesus created everything. “Without Him nothing was made that has been made.”
    Continue reading the topic: “The doctrine of trinity”
    Sermon by: Pastor Bobby Cabonce

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    The Scientific Method of obtaining a Scientific Theory is not something you can just decide if it is truth or not. Once something has been proven to be a Scientific Theory, using Scientific Method, it has been proven to be true MANY times over and is accepted as such by scientists and learned scholars the world over, the ONLY way it can be changed is if it can be proven false using this same Scientific Method obtaining the same results consistently, over and over. Not just once or twice. If something can be proven to be an Empirical Law, it cannot be changed. Here’s the thing, just because you don’t believe a Scientific Theory or Empirical Law is true, unless you can prove it scientifically, that’s just too bad; You don’t have that option.

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